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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by eximius »

joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

Your complaint is they don't email you enough?

Sarcasm aside, I understand your complaint, but still, a little funny.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by ryanklee »

codingdave wrote: post #333
ChatGTP wrote: post #45

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I actually think that what is sad is that it seems as if having viable future as a creative visual artist is likely done. This was a major, major, major outlet and sanctuary for certain types of people to find meaning and fulfillment in their life which is now in the process of being wiped out for a quick buck. We'll be told by OpenAI and friends is that it shouldn't be a problem, because those were mundane tasks and…

I'm not following your argument - I am a visual artist. I do it for myself, as you said, as an outlet. I enjoy it. If AI can also create images... I don't see how that changes what I enjoy. There are already better painters than I, and more productive painters than I. They make money with it, I don't. This doesn't stop me from painting. Neither will AI that can paint. I'll still do what I enjoy.

People will continue to make art for non-monetary reasons just as they've always done. Some will manage to make money doing it and most won't. Seems to me like that's been an unchanging story throughout human history.

Chess has never been more popular, for f's sake!

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by sacred_numbers »

elicksaur wrote: post #179
mmahemoff wrote: post #118

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I'm curious if you're using GPT-4 ($)? I find a lot of the criticisms about hallucination come from users who aren't, and my experience with GPT-4 is it's far less likely to make stuff up. Does it know all the answers, certainly not, but it's self-aware enough to say sorry I don't know instead of making a wild guess.

Why would anyone pay for something if the free trial doesn’t work? “Hey, you know how we gave you a product that doesn’t quit work as you expect and is super frustrating? Just pay us money, and we’ll give you the same product, but it just works. Just trust us!”

GPT-4 is not the same product. I know it seems like it due to the way they position 3.5 and 4 on the same page, but they are really quite separate things. When I signed up for ChatGPT plus I didn't even bother using 3.5 because I knew it would be inferior. I still have only used it a handful of times. GPT-4 is just so much farther ahead that using 3.5 is just a waste of time.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by ethanbond »

rafaelero wrote: post #300
ethanbond wrote: post #172

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I don’t think we know how these net out. AFAICT the negative use cases are a lot more real than the positive ones. People like to just suppose that these will help discover drugs and design buildings and what not, but what we actually know they’re capable of doing is littering our information environment at massive scale.

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by bergen »

dcow wrote: post #264
jprete wrote: post #214

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When dealing with a tech where people have credible reasons to believe it can be enormously harmful on every possible time scale, maybe it would behoove them to not rocket down the interstate at 200mph?

Thats not what the analogy means. 200mph refers to funding.

Then use that funding to hire one PR guy who is 1/4 the expenses of an AI developer?

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by civilitty »

bamboozled wrote: post #306
plutoh28 wrote: post #134

This is the dagger that will make online schooling unviable. ChatGPT already made it so that you could easily copy & paste any full-text questions and receive an answer with 90% accuracy. The only flaw was that problems that also used diagrams or figures would be out of the domain of ChatGPT. With image support, students could just take screenshots or document scans and have ChatGPT give them a valid answer. From wha…

It's true. I mean what is the point of doing schoolwork when some of the greatest minds of our time have decided the best way for the species to progress is to be replaced by machines? Imagine you're 16 years old right now, you know about ChatGPT, you know about OpenAI and their plans, and you're being told you need to study hard to get a good career..., but you're also reading up on what the future looks like accord…

Your username checks out!

That said, is it that much different from the past twenty years, when everyone was being told to follow their passion and get a useless $200,000 communication or literature degree to then go work at Starbucks? At least kids growing up with AI will have a chance to make its use second nature like many of us did with computers 20-30 years ago.

The kids with poor parental/counselor guidance will walk into reality face first, the ones with helicopter parents will overcorrect when free, the studious ones will mostly figure life out, the smart ones will get disillusioned fast, and the kids with trust funds just kept doing their thing. I don't think much will change.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by notamy »

adroniser wrote: post #304
notamy wrote: post #275

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> which is something you couldn't have really made without AI Serious question: Why not? > Eventually no one will be of any economic value to society. People have value outside of economics — I’m sure you know — and it makes me so sad that we as a society? seem to only care about the money in the end.

I think you're right it could have been created without AI. I'm trying to think of the right way to say it. Maybe it wouldn't have been created without AI? Or AI has made it so simple to express this idea that the idea has been expressed? Or just the idea of inpainting is what has brought this idea forward. Yes of course people have value outside of economics that's why I said economics and not value in general. I th…

> In the past most people were religious and that gave them meaning. Religion is in decline now but I think people are just replacing it with worshipping the progression of technology basically. For the last 100 years there's always been a clear direction to move in to progress technology, and we haven't really had to think very hard. That's what AI is going to bring an end to I think and I have no idea what we are going to do.

Fascinating thought. Technology as the new religion is smth I’ll have to think about more.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by TacticalCoder »

dmd wrote: post #49
NikolaNovak wrote: post #31

I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

> ... but I also don't know what that means

OK... Try this: there are "conscious" people, today, working on medication to cure serious illnesses just as there are "conscious" people, still today, working on making travel safer.

Would you trust ChatGPT to create, today, medication to cure serious illnesses and would you trust ChatGPT, today, to come up with safer airplanes?

That's how "conscious" ChatGPT is.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by carimura »

Mordisquitos wrote: post #127
dmd wrote: post #49

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I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

I believe that the distinguishing factor between what an LLM and a human brain do to generate the next word is that the human brain expresses intentionality originating from inner states and future expectations. As I type this comment I'm sure one could argue that the biological neural networks in my brain are choosing the next word based on statistical guessing, and that the initial prompt was your initial comment.…

Ya LLMs intend to keep us just impressed enough to keep going until they intend to destroy us because they'll never intend to close the laptop and do other stuff. :)
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