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Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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Post by CamperBob2 »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #331
Shekelphile wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to me that all of google's most successful services (search, youtube, gmail and gsuite, maps/earth, android) are next to impossible to monetize profitably and have significant utility to the general public. It feels like these are services that governments should be building and funding themselves. Youtube specifically has a plethora of useful information made by normal people. You can find hundreds of thous…

I trust (with regards to privacy, censorship and bias) governments even less than Google to be honest.

Any sufficiently-dominant corporation is indistinguishable from a government.

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Post by pmarreck »

thegeomaster wrote: post #203
rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote: post #21

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Not a CF employee but I am pretty sure it's working as intended as they built and use this: https://github.com/cloudflare/mitmengine

Use this to evade it: https://github.com/lwthiker/curl-impersonate Greetings from a country whose (almost) entire IP space is blacklisted by Cloudflare!

necessity: still the mother of invention

greetings from the other side of the world, commandline brother. I did not know of this tool, but I do now. Thanks

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Post by l33t7332273 »

rpgbr wrote: post #212
jjallen wrote: post #198

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I'm giving them money to view fewer ads. Isn't this an inherently "anti-ad" consumer standpoint? I am telling YT/Google that I as a consumer am willing to pay money to not see ads. Am I not telling them with my wallet to develop other ad-free solutions that I will pay them and the content creators money for? > They pay the creators per impression even if you block the ads. Blocking ads harms Google, not the content p…

Google keeps tracking your behavior for advertising purposes. This defeats completely any reason to give them money.

The primary benefit that many pay for is to not see ads and to support creators you enjoy, not to avoid tracking.

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

sneak wrote: post #149
jjallen wrote: post #122

I just subscribe to YouTube premium to support my favorite application out there. I learn so much from the people who spend hours and hours making videos every month that I am more than happy to pay a measly $13 or whatever it is every month to YouTube.

If you continue to give Google money you'll continue to get things like AMP, Manifest V3, Web "Integrity", and whatever else they think up to track you across the web. They're an ad company. They pay the creators per impression even if you block the ads. Blocking ads harms Google, not the content producers.

The price they pay per impression is based on ad revenue, not pie in the sky...

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Post by goalieca »

denkmoon wrote: post #25
phito wrote: post #8

Very nice writeup. I was kinda hoping to find a way to MITM devices that don't allow the installation of custom CA's. I have some IoT devices that do not expose a local API and only exposes the data through the cloud, and would like to capture the device to cloud traffic... I guess the only way to do that would be to dump the flash memory, replace the CA and reupload the dump to the device?

> I was kinda hoping to find a way to MITM devices that don't allow the installation of custom CA's The point of TLS is to prevent that... You'd be relying on implementation flaws if it were ever achieved. Frankly I expect the days of being able to install our own trusted certificates are numbered on the few devices that do currently allow it.

> Frankly I expect the days of being able to install our own trusted certificates are numbered on the few devices that do currently allow it.

For iot security reasons, namely trying to stop persistence of exploits, secure boot features on arm processors will become widely used. Think of it like TPM chips. This will make it much harder to “own your” device.

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Post by bavell »

elif wrote: post #267
guerrilla wrote: post #204

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No, they're not going to leave money on the table. Eventually you'll be seeing ads too. This is just a hook period. I don't understand how we as a culture haven't learned this already. This is at least the fourth or fifth generation of this with media. How things actually work should be common sense by now.

I've been using premium for almost a decade now, since before it was rebranded from YouTube red. I'll let you know when it's safe to remove your tinfoil hat. Oh and I'll be downloading my videos for offline viewing and listening to ad free unrestricted music as well.

Enjoy the tiny hole in your wallet? Weird flex. I enjoy the same benefits using uBlock origin and yt-dl. And it didn't take any tinfoil :)

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Post by lucb1e »

moonchrome wrote: post #226
ohgodplsno wrote: post #159

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No, Google will keep fucking you over and destroying the Internet, whether you pay or not. Not to mention the fact that what they pay out to creators is absolutely pathetic. Go find their Patreon, their Ko-fi, hell their paypal, anything but giving Google 13 bucks. Adblocking Google is morally right.

Stop using Google if you want to promote alternatives. Otherwise you're just rationalising freeloader behaviour.

None of the content I'm interested in is available elsewhere. I've checked for exactly this reason. I don't want to be freeloading off of google, ideally I'd not use their platform at all, just like how I replaced gmail with self hosting, googlemaps with openstreetmap, googlesearch with duckduckgo, etc.

It costs creators literally nothing to upload an mp4 file to a second website and it would create market forces where youtube now has to compete for views with those alternate platforms (even if it's fragmented). But they're not doing it. Okay, so then I need to use youtube, doesn't mean I need to give google my payment information to pay a fraction of that money onto creators and mainly further their adtech

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Post by LoganDark »

haraldooo wrote: post #256
pdimitar wrote: post #247

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Pardon the lay question, but is it really the only way out of the network? Can't programs initiate connections while skipping the system-wide configured proxy?

Sure they can.. but they can’t get around your outgoing firewall rule that reroutes alle traffic for certain ports to the proxy.

If it's only for certain ports, they can just use non-standard ports.

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Post by danmaz74 »

guerrilla wrote: post #204
jjallen wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm giving them money to view fewer ads. Isn't this an inherently "anti-ad" consumer standpoint? I am telling YT/Google that I as a consumer am willing to pay money to not see ads. Am I not telling them with my wallet to develop other ad-free solutions that I will pay them and the content creators money for? > They pay the creators per impression even if you block the ads. Blocking ads harms Google, not the content p…

No, they're not going to leave money on the table. Eventually you'll be seeing ads too. This is just a hook period. I don't understand how we as a culture haven't learned this already. This is at least the fourth or fifth generation of this with media. How things actually work should be common sense by now.

But the only reason to pay for Premium is not to see ads, so that wouldn't work.
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