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Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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This also probably mean that they are going to tap/secretly record every video call and analyze the data without recording being turned on. Since all video calls terminate at a zoom server they already have the capability to listen in without anyone knowing about it.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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I am yet to find a modern video chat that isn't draining the battery of any laptop. From old Xeons, to fairly recent Ryzen and even M1/2 Macs. It's a bit puzzling, actually. I don't think Skype and TeamSpeak had the same effect on computers back in the day. Just how much local processing are they doing these days? It's crazy

It's most likely due to the fact they are all electron apps rather than they are doing "something".

> electron apps

Which only adds limited overhead to certain cases. Unless they are encoding/decoding video directly in JS...

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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How does Jitsi handle 500-person+ conference calls these days? This is the killer zoom feature - it looks like Jitsi can handle up to 500 now. https://jaas.8x8.vc/#/comparison . That's personally not enough for many remote companies. So if we're going to have to have Zoom on our machines anyway (to handle an all-company meeting), why not just use it for the rest?

Are 500-person conference calls actually productive? Surely the number of speakers in any such meeting will be a small percentage of listeners?

City wide Town halls where every one can listen in but pre-registered people can ask questions are a productive usecase for public information. Those buildings can't accommodate 500 people.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#356
Hollywood should've just gotten actors to use Zoom for a few weeks worth of meetings, so they can buy the perpetual likeness of their voice and faces.

This is way too broad and especially the sublicense clause is going to make me reject meeting requests that contain a Zoom link from now on.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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> Why not simply not comment? Please don't post attacks like this here.

It was a question, similar to the exact tort posted.

Please don't post self-righteous dismissive comments here.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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Zoom is giving itself the right to collect video and audio of you that could be used today to deepfake your voice in a convincing way. It won't be long before the video deepfakes are convincing too. This is absolutely awful and terrifying.

> does not include ... product usage data, diagnostic data, and similar content or data that Zoom collects or generates in connection with your ... use of the Services Did you not read the quote? Or are you telling me this still might include video and audio data? I feel like an medieval illiterate farmer reading latin...

The scope of content used for AI training seems (to me) like it only includes video and audio data.

The list you reproduced above sounds like it's just metadata, like IP addresses, authentication logs, click tracking, etc.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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Thankfully nothing like this is in Jitsi Meet’s TOS: https://jitsi.org/meet-jit-si-terms-of-service/ It never ceases to amaze me how companies choose the worst software!

I started using matrix internally (with element as a client) which uses jitsi under the hood for video/voice chat. Quality is amazing.

Element Call is going to be pretty great once it is production-ready and has E2EE enabled by default (a branch of it already has it on.)
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