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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by pms »

Auracle wrote: post #213
goalieca wrote: post #155

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I had totally forgotten that you had a flair showing your expertise. I did some computer vision stuff for a while. You wouldn’t recognize r/science of the early days though. Reddit is a completely different site.

r/science is now r/poorStudiesThatJustifyMyBeliefs

Not just r/science. The hard part is that this logic applies also to "word/science" and to "world/society", and that this issue of belief confirmation will deepen until we learn to sufficiently value public good (knowledge discovery is a part of it) in our capitalist societies. Not easy... Unfortunately, it may take another World War for our societies to value public good more than we do currently. Call me a pessimist or give me reasons to think differently.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by johnnyanmac »

MBCook wrote: post #132
aeyes wrote: post #94

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NSFW content didn't show without an account for years. What's the difference between using the same account in the official app or on the website or third party apps? Additionally one of the API changes which also goes is into effect is that they won't serve NSFW content on the paid API. So even if you pay you only get half of Reddit.

Hell, they could have banned all real NSFW content. Would have been a big deal, but wouldn’t have interfered with 3rd party apps or anything I use Reddit for. Any NSFW stuff (due to laws, investments, advertisers, anything) had nothing to do with the API decision. They may have done them at the same time, but it wasn’t needed.

That or old.reddit is probably the next big schism in the making. The NSFW fiasco may cause some significant change if it ever does happen.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by trogdor »

xnx wrote: post #339
extr wrote: post #42

I remember signing up for Reddit as a college freshman. I was a digg user and joined Reddit in the aftermath of that fiasco. I sometimes laugh looking over my post history for the past decade plus. If you read the posts linearly, you can trace my evolution from a kid arguing passionately over politics and culture (things he didn't really know much about), to a more mature young adult who rarely waded into discussions…

I'm surprised that TikTok, YouTube, and Meta (via Facebook? Instagram? something new?) aren't trying harder to welcome exiles from Reddit and Twitter.

To most people outside of this bubble, nothing about Reddit has recently changed. At all.

Reports of Reddit’s death have been greatly exaggerated.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by johnnyanmac »

embik wrote: post #313
ativzzz wrote: post #166

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That's the thing - what I like about reddit is that every single community is right there. I don't need to figure out a new complex system. It's a megaforum with every single subniche you can think of, without having to go to any other site or any other server I want a centralized megaforum. I don't care about federation or what technology it uses. I just want easy access to everything

This seems to be a very common sentiment that is not stated that clearly often, but it makes me very sad to read it. The magic of the internet, once upon a time, was discovering content in your own time. You stumbled into that cool niche forum, found someone’s personal blog, a flash game page. It didn’t need big centralised services to be fun. Internet users have become consumers and want to be fed content. I do not…

Yeah, I Don't get it personally. People are seeing the results of Reddit and their thoughts still remain: "yea I want all my eggs in one basket". I appreciated that when one forum shut down it didn't take out my entire means a of communication. That if a big forum shut down it wasn't the only big forum for a given community. I Don't know what changed for people to not value that variety, that redundancy.

Also, don't know why no one remembers RSS feeds if they want an aggregator anyway. Even Reddit and YouTube have RSS protocols (for now). I never used them but it's nifty for the best of both worlds.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by johnnyanmac »

sdrinf wrote: post #335
embik wrote: post #313

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This seems to be a very common sentiment that is not stated that clearly often, but it makes me very sad to read it. The magic of the internet, once upon a time, was discovering content in your own time. You stumbled into that cool niche forum, found someone’s personal blog, a flash game page. It didn’t need big centralised services to be fun. Internet users have become consumers and want to be fed content. I do not…

Preface: I'd like for the fediverse to win, active on both mastodon, and reading lemmy; however, economies of scale in the present Internet does not favor that outcome: * What we want is high signal/noise ratio. * In the magic old internet, the bar for signal was relatively low, because it competed with books, and TV. * The competition over attention has raised the bar over what "good content" looks like. * Content l…

If reddit was the only, or even best place for that I may agree. But reddit isn't Twitter, and in fact many rdddit circles detest OC despite also complaining about rampant reposts.

Ofc you exploit it anyway, but Reddit was never truly good for professionals unless they were eternally on reddit to begin with.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by johnnyanmac »

mvdtnz wrote: post #265
data-ottawa wrote: post #198

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For what it's worth, Lemmy and kbin are very much the v1 of the fediverse, the UIs and servers are improving quickly as they break (just like how reddit was notoriously down all the time years ago). After you sign up you don't have to care much about servers or instances, just tap "all". I don't think it will be long before someone comes into this space with a good UI and the community that reddit just marooned and t…

You're not exactly selling it.

If you're looking for a one stop reddit replacement you're not going to find it. As such, I don't think selling the fediverse as "reddit without the BS" is an honest or even reasonable comparison.

You're going to have to stick with reddit and give replacements a dew years for the dust to settle before asking that question.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by lucb1e »

publicmail wrote: post #237
lucb1e wrote: post #90

Oh that's dumb. I forgot to check my inbox before midnight. I had offered Tildes invites and don't have the password to that account (but have been logged in since years, can access the auth token, etc., but reddit doesn't want you to recover from this scenario, so that's gone forever). Well... anyone here needs a Tildes invite?

Hey, could I get an invite? Please excuse the new account. I just made it because I didn’t want to put my email address in the bio of my regular account.

Didn't need to make a new account for that, could have just emailed me directly :)

Anyway (also for the record) I am out for the moment, but I'll note down people's email addresses for the next time we get a round of invites made available. So far it has been every two weeks or so. (So if you want, you can remove the email addr from the profile again. Btw I never got spam on a rot13, base64, or other trivially encoded email address, in case anti-spam would be what you're hiding it for.)

Note that one can also email the owner at invites@tildes.net as per https://docs.tildes.net/contact

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by johnnyanmac »

bears-n-beets wrote: post #6
Wherecombinator wrote: post #5

I pretty much only like Reddit for niche communities and fighting shit google results. The latter is a necessity but for the former there’s other communities to satiate my needs. It’s just that it’s a bit of a fragmented way of diving into my interests. Is there such a thing as a forum aggregator?

Where are these other communities? I can’t find them. And no, I don’t count Discord as an acceptable replacement. Googling for old-school forums has been pretty fruitless for me thus far as Google is basically useless without appending site:reddit.com these days (the supreme irony of that…)

Most gaming groups moved to discord, like it or not. But it does help discover some niches once you want deeper knowledge than what a wiki would give.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by johnnyanmac »

lousken wrote: post #11

So where is everybody going after reddit?

So far HN and Tildes furfilled most of my browsing. Have a KBin account I keep tabs on and I'm helping to fund Non.io (not really ready yet, but I'm happy gambling on the long game).

(Btw, I have Tildes invites for anyone who still sees this comment. Feel free to reply to ask for one).

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