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Kagi raises $670k

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Re: Kagi raises $670k

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #349
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #312

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Why would publishers allow you to crawl their sites if you're not sending them any traffic? The big publishers certainly won't let you do that as they are selling their data to Google, Microsoft, Facebook and whoever else has the money to train a fully fledged LLM, which is certainly not everyone.

Because it lets them sell data to other parties than Google and Facebook? That's actually pretty great. Only having a 1 or 2 customers kinda sucks. A search engine partnering with an answer engine may not send traffic, but the answer engine is a potential customer for the websites the search engines direct them to.

>Because it lets them sell data to other parties than Google and Facebook?

Only indirectly by charging search engines for access to content. It would be an entirely different business model that requires a complex set of agreements between publishers, search engines and LLM providers.

Granted it's not impossible and certainly worth considering if you have search engine expertise but no money to train an LLM.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

carlosjobim wrote: post #257
imiric wrote: post #153

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I think you're overestimating the impact technical users have on the survival of a business. Word of mouth and technical influence inside SMBs and corporations can only do so much, especially for a business that doesn't have a corporate sales strategy. > Nearly all of us in the "niche technical audience" are the personal IT support departments of some subset of our family, friends, and their friends. How has that inf…

> How has that influence worked out for you so far? By that logic, all our family and friend circles would be running Linux, using OSS, and be more mindful of their privacy. Asking normal people to use Linux and OSS is a bit too much, but I think that Macbook sales have had at least a bit of help by being endorsed by the technical crowd.

And iPhones and iPad, too. They are what you recommend to your family members after one too many requests to "fix" a "virus" on their Windows PC or Android device.

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Post by dfried »

Very happy Kagi customer here. If you're not paying then you're the product, not the customer. Having my primary interface with the internet be with a company that serves my interests is wonderful.

Congrats and good luck to the team!

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Post by yieldcrv »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #333
yieldcrv wrote: post #299

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You can lie. That’s what “self-certify” means. If you have the money to participate and lie about having/earning more money then you qualify. There is no constitutional way to prevent you from investing based on net worth, so the law places consequences on the companies offering investments. And the only time this affects the company is if they were relying on a regulatory exemption that also allows unaccredited inve…

> no constitutional way to prevent you from investing based on net worth What? Of course there is. Low net worth isn’t a protected class. We don’t do it that way because the purpose of the law is to protect small investors.

It doesn't need to be a protected class and is not how I would argue

If a fine or sanction from the government was applied to the investor themselves based on net worth, I would argue 5th amendment and 14th amendment equal application of laws, and 1st amendment's freedom of speech citing the Citizen's United case where money movement is speech

I think that would be resilient in most circuits and certainly scotus

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Post by somewhat_drunk »

dotcoma wrote: post #332
somewhat_drunk wrote: post #325

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To be clear, I don't like them from the perspective of equity crowdfunding, which has an alarmingly high percentage of low-information, follow-the-crowd, "dumb money" retail investors. SAFEs muddy the waters. It's just another thing that already overwhelmed retail investors need to take into account when considering whether to invest. https://www.finra.org/investors/insights/safe-securities

Thanks. Agree, but are SAFEs any worse than a normal convertible?

As long as there isn't a secondary market on which to trade, then no, they aren't any worse. And right now, there isn't a good secondary market in the USA.

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Post by dotcoma »

somewhat_drunk wrote: post #356
dotcoma wrote: post #332

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Thanks. Agree, but are SAFEs any worse than a normal convertible?

As long as there isn't a secondary market on which to trade, then no, they aren't any worse. And right now, there isn't a good secondary market in the USA.

Would SAFEs be worse than normal convertibles if there were a good secondary market? Why?

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Post by tokamak-teapot »

ziftface wrote: post #114
tokamak-teapot wrote: post #84

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They do have a Safari extension on iOS, which directs searches to kagi.com

I love kagi but I hate this. It's not their fault, it's just a limitation of the os but it's such a hassle when you have to solve a Google captcha to get kagi results. I'm considering just removing that from my phone and switching back to Google there.

What makes you get a Google captcha? My default search is set to DDG. Perhaps that’s why I don’t get one?
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