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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by jdbernard »

mattmaroon wrote: post #234
mrtranscendence wrote: post #69

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There are distinct questions here: whether Reddit has the right to forcibly reopen subreddits, whether it’s justified in doing so, and whether it’s a good idea at all. The first isn’t in dispute, but the other two are open for debate. It could all go super well and everyone forgets about this shakeup, or it could engender further animosity and chase people (particularly trend-setting power users) to some other platfo…

Yeah. I get the whole fear of the same thing happening to Reddit that happened to Digg. But digg had Reddit nipping at its heels and it was still small, Reddit is huge there’s nowhere to chase them to. The other alternative is for Reddit to just stand by and let the blackouts chase people away indefinitely. It is hard to imagine that is better. It will upset the people who have already decided to leave Reddit anyway,…

The other other alternative is for Reddit to meaningfully engage with the issues that the mods have raised around API pricing.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by mcguire »

jdminhbg wrote: post #274
munificent wrote: post #264

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Counter-argument: 99.996% of Reddit users apparently don't want to be moderators or they already would be, so finding more will be very hard.

I really don't think that's the case. If you want to mod r/politics, you don't just raise your hand and then get mod powers. Moderators are a closed group.

What is the process for starting a new subreddit?

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by colinsane »

johannes1234321 wrote: post #60
fluidcruft wrote: post #22

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500 million monthly users isn't a community. I certainly don't have any subreddits that are this large nor do I give a shit about how many users are on a particular website. My reddit communities are niche and skill-based. We'll go wherever we go. Oh no! The giant horde of September stays behind on Reddit! Quelle horreur.

The thing is: By being on reddit the barrier to enter a small niche community is low. Having to register with a new account, when maybe the favorite username is taken already is a barrier, even if it takes just few minutes.

wait that’s the opposite: reddit uses a flat username space, whereas the federated ones have a hierarchical namespace that reduces collisions. there can only be one “johannes” on Reddit, but right now there can be 200-300 “johannes” on Lemmy (rendered “johannes@” when viewed from a foreign instance).

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by deelowe »

JCharante wrote: post #71
deelowe wrote: post #64

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Isn't there an issue with instances blocking certain communities on other instances?

Isn't there an issue with reddit banning certain communities? With the fediverse you can choose to be on an instance that doesn't block others or be on an instance that does block. For example, the instance I'm on defederates from 4 instances while beehaw defederates from 100+

Why would I care what reddit does? I'm trying to understand how Lemmy works.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by deelowe »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #162
deelowe wrote: post #64

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Isn't there an issue with instances blocking certain communities on other instances?

Problem easily solved: start your own instance, or find one that doesn't block other instances...

No. That's silly.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by deelowe »

jayknight wrote: post #212
mjamesaustin wrote: post #23

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I was confused at first by the federated nature of Lemmy, but making an account was easy and I'm thoroughly enjoying it now. The important thing to note – even though you join a particular Lemmy "instance", it doesn't particularly matter which one, because you can subscribe to communities (subreddits) from any instance. The instance I joined – vlemmy.net An aggregator of communities to join – https://lemmyverse.net/c…

That's true as long as your instance does block or get blocked by the insurance you want to interact on.

This is too complicated. I don't have time to keep up with all that.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by fho »

Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

If I were reddit I would probably think "LLMs will moderate just fine".

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by jdminhbg »

munificent wrote: post #304
jdminhbg wrote: post #274

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I really don't think that's the case. If you want to mod r/politics, you don't just raise your hand and then get mod powers. Moderators are a closed group.

You can create your own subreddit and be the sole moderator of it in about sixty seconds of effort.

Sure. But that doesn't really have any bearing on whether Reddit can find volunteers to take over big subs.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by hbn »

potatolicious wrote: post #261
hbn wrote: post #47

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I have a feeling they won't have a hard time finding deranged weirdos who want to mod and will remove anything that could in any way raise an eyebrow of advertisers/payment processors/etc The worst mods for the community will be the best mods for reddit's bottom line. The power-tripping is payment in itself for those types.

> "The worst mods for the community will be the best mods for reddit's bottom line." Will it though? Twitter's moderation policies have all but collapsed and the net result is a near-total flight of high-profile high-dollar advertisers. Like others have mentioned in the thread, the people who will most likely want to take over these subs are going to be some combination of bigots, cranks, and the severely deranged. T…

What? They're not gonna put a bunch of edgy 4chan guys on the mod teams, that's not what advertisers like. They'll get the type of people who moderate every other mainstream site. Extremely left-leaning authoritarian types.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

munificent wrote: post #304
jdminhbg wrote: post #274

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I really don't think that's the case. If you want to mod r/politics, you don't just raise your hand and then get mod powers. Moderators are a closed group.

You can create your own subreddit and be the sole moderator of it in about sixty seconds of effort.

This sounds distinctly different from one raising their proverbial hand to gain moderator powers on one of the most popular subreddits on the site. How many non-moderator users don't care about moderating a subreddit with 1 user but do care about moderating a subreddit with 1M users?
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