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Tangent: I used to love reddit, i would actively pay for reddit gold just to support the site. I still have a hard time moving on, but this latest fiasco has set things in stone for me. RIP Reddit.
I’m actually glad this is happening because I’m sick and tired of looking for information on Reddit and seeing someone reply to a deleted comment with “Wow thank you that information was very useful!” It’s user hostile, and prevents the spread of knowledge.
They don’t owe you anything.
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Who knows. Maybe this will actually make people hesitate to trust everything to a private 'platform'. Maybe this will finally be the straw that breaks the camel's back and maybe even makes people consider the real issue at play ( platforms vs protocols ) and maybe even make appropriate conclusions. I am a dreamer.
For a "protocol" of any note, wouldn't you expect there to be various actors archiving everything posted via that protocol?
Not everyone wants everything archived for potential future use. Some people not only want, but are also mandated by law to have an appropriate archive of their communications.
My point is that we should be able to figure out options for both and anything in between, where user has control over it. This is the important part. As a user, I used to be able to have some modicum of control over what happens on the machines I own and the data I send to others. Over the years, that control was slowly wrangled from the population under various guises ( cloud, convenience and so on ).
But instead of discussing protocols that would, hopefully, behave in deterministic and predictable ways, we discuss platforms and their pinkyswear promises not to do something.
It is a lot to ask these days, because a lot of people got really used to 'easy' and 'free' internet. And that is before we get to the technical issues you mention.
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Who knows. Maybe this will actually make people hesitate to trust everything to a private 'platform'. Maybe this will finally be the straw that breaks the camel's back and maybe even makes people consider the real issue at play ( platforms vs protocols ) and maybe even make appropriate conclusions. I am a dreamer.
For a "protocol" of any note, wouldn't you expect there to be various actors archiving everything posted via that protocol?
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So, you'd delete your old comments because you would rather no one in the world get any kind of value from them since you are not getting any anymore?
I would delete comments that are past their prime like I would discard expired food in my fridge, yes. What are you going to gain from keeping something that is now rotten?
Also comments don't rot on the internet, nothing is ever "past its prime". Why do you think comments lose value to other people? In fact, there's quite likely a long tail of future users who would benefit, who are even larger than the short tail of people in the current 24h.
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This is basically spamming, but with a time delay so the moderators won’t see it. Worse, the data is already archived by the data collection services. The people who suffer are going to be average users trying to find some answer to a question by searching Reddit, only to discover jumbled messes of words that don’t make sense.
> The people who suffer are going to be average users I already notice this just with the blackout. Some stuff I find on Google is in private subs now, so I can't view it on Reddit. Sure, there might be ways around it, but regular people won't know that.
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There must be some legal justification for reddit doing this. https://gdpr-info.eu/art-17-gdpr/ Maybe Reddit users don't qualify for "Right to Erasure" because Reddit is still going, their data is being used, they technically didn't revoke "consent" and so on?
That is not how that works. The right to keep data beyond when a user requests it's deletion is contingent on it being needed for ongoing business requirements like tax and other audit requirements, not for content. It's not possible under GDPR to automatically license user submitted content via a ToS or something. If you want to keep content beyond when a user clicks a delete button you would need a contract that pr…
(I am not trying to be combative, I am just unfamiliar with GDPR)
I’m actually glad this is happening because I’m sick and tired of looking for information on Reddit and seeing someone reply to a deleted comment with “Wow thank you that information was very useful!” It’s user hostile, and prevents the spread of knowledge.
IF that was their past behavior when this happened (what you describe has been happening since the inception of Reddit) that would be one thing.
Neither of those things are the case, Reddit has shown they have always had the ability to create these features (vote out mods, fix modding tools, improve accessibility, prevent comment deletion) but refused to do so until it actually hurt their bottom line. That's scummy.
Wow wow, Isn't this the violation of the Europen GDPR privacy laws. If you deletd it then they should actually be deleted, otherwise you are violating the laws.
I understand that the GDPR allows you to request deletion of your private data, but content you’ve published isn’t quite the same. At the very least, Reddit’s TOS claim a perpetual irrevocable license to that content
Does the GDPR have a separate provision for requesting the deletion of published content, or are people just assuming it falls under the private data rules?
I can confirm a comment I made in r/vmware has been restored. I typically delete my comments after 24 hours. I have a single comment from 20 days ago that was previously deleted now back on my profile.