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Post by kimukasetsu »

Starcrunch wrote: post #256
wnolens wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice to read your journey. Glad you found a way through. I had a similar experience to the first half of your story. Was so unfulfilled in tech that I ended up quitting and took time off not working, trying lots of different things, getting very frustrated and depressed along the way. I did try LSD (ok, a lot of LSD) and instead of it helping me process/sort through/integrate some of my troubles it added new ones and…

I'm glad to hear from someone else who's honest about their negative experience. Psychedelics seem to somehow have simply amazing PR: plentiful testimonies of their life-changing abilities, encouraging us to try them, but very little acknowledgement of their dark side. The subculture is very quick to brush away anything that goes against the narrative of the "mind-opening wonder drugs that big pharma doesn't want you…

I had a similar experience. I took psylocibin a few times, but after the last one I started getting panic attacks and feeling derealization quite often. This led to negative recurring thoughts and I felt really bad for a while. Got better after a year of cognitive behavioral therapy and six months taking a light dosage of antidepressants. Routine exercises and zen meditation helped tremendously as well. Get help, it is possible. Your brain can heal itself with your help.

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Post by coffeebeqn »

cascades42 wrote: post #276
thejackgoode wrote: post #7

Can someone share any relevant experience with this? Best would be if you did it properly under supervision of clinical professional, or if you are a professional here, by any chance. Doesn’t matter if it’s US or not.

My mother-in-law did MDMA and psychedelic mushroom therapy (on separate occasions) with an experienced guide. This occurred prior to the official training that's occurring now but after the decriminalization of drugs in Oregon. The guide was not a licensed clinician, but she had guided 100s of clients. My mother-in-law found it incredibly helpful in processing traumas from childhood and in getting "unstuck" in thinki…

If you just take them yourself it’s kind of dumb luck if it’ll be helpful. I found a large dose powerful but also kind of random and confusing. I enjoyed my time and still think about it sometimes but it didn’t cure my mental issues. I think with a professional therapist it would be a lot more efficient and directed. Less time spent on trying to figure out if I’m in the correct universe or if time is still a thing or how human food works.

With MDMA I certainly had lovely time talking with friends but again without a therapeutic goal it was just a good time.

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Post by rybosworld »

_a_a_a_ wrote: post #349
hammyhavoc wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish more people spoke about their negative experiences with psychedelics. It's a sobering and necessary counterpoint to most of what floods these threads of how it changed someone's life, but the "how" is largely ambiguous.

> I wish more people spoke about their negative experiences with psychedelics people do. But just maybe 'negative' doesn't mean catastrophically bad, and just maybe bad experiences are in the minority hence the flood of positives. What your post comes across as, to me anyway, is that you want drugs to be a bad thing. > but the "how" is largely ambiguous Does it matter? Or are people just not allowed to have a positiv…

> What your post comes across as, to me anyway, is that you want drugs to be a bad thing.

I am curious how you could interpret that.

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Post by _a_a_a_ »

_a_a_a_ wrote: post #287
Starcrunch wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad to hear from someone else who's honest about their negative experience. Psychedelics seem to somehow have simply amazing PR: plentiful testimonies of their life-changing abilities, encouraging us to try them, but very little acknowledgement of their dark side. The subculture is very quick to brush away anything that goes against the narrative of the "mind-opening wonder drugs that big pharma doesn't want you…

> The subculture is very quick to brush away anything that goes against the narrative of... Oh here we go again. Give me three comments below (in direct links) that "brush away" the obvious risks. I think you just made stuff up. Of course there are risks. Maybe the reason a whole lot of people are not complaining about bad experiences is that they are maybe, maybe, not as common as you want them to be. If you want ra…

I repeat: Give me three comments below (in direct links) that "brush away" the obvious risks. Post some support for your claim please.

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Post by _a_a_a_ »

rybosworld wrote: post #353
_a_a_a_ wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wish more people spoke about their negative experiences with psychedelics people do. But just maybe 'negative' doesn't mean catastrophically bad, and just maybe bad experiences are in the minority hence the flood of positives. What your post comes across as, to me anyway, is that you want drugs to be a bad thing. > but the "how" is largely ambiguous Does it matter? Or are people just not allowed to have a positiv…

> What your post comes across as, to me anyway, is that you want drugs to be a bad thing. I am curious how you could interpret that.

> I wish more people spoke about their negative experiences with psychedelics.

that

> It's a sobering and necessary counterpoint...

and that.

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Post by justatdotin »

eimrine wrote: post #29
lockhouse wrote: post #17

Given the reputation of MDMA, I wonder if this could also help with certain types of sexual dysfunction, such as unwanted low libido.

that works only to females, for males the desired substance is 2cb.

if you have both on hand, I recommend the 2C-B at the tail of the MDMA

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Post by justatdotin »

xyzwave wrote: post #300
dokem wrote: post #164

Or just do drugs by yourself or with friends and not around some stranger who guides you to state approved answers. Also do mushrooms, not this shit. Only reason they're pushing this brain-melting stuff is because they can make a buck. 'actually drugs are good now. Just give us your credit card and insurance info and step right this way'. Fuck off. Do drugs in the woods and sort your shit out like we've been doing fo…

> Only reason they're pushing this brain-melting stuff is because they can make a buck Citations sorely needed. The only paper I’ve seen make neurotoxicity claims was retracted long ago[1]. 1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC194116/

the hangover, and moreso gaps in memory of the night before, are clear signs of brain damage.

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Post by sleight42 »

goolz wrote: post #103
davidw wrote: post #89

Oregon recently legalized "shrooms" in therapeutical settings and is gearing up for that to start: https://www.bendbulletin.com/localstate/oregons-first-licens...

I find this to be a great start and have had some very productive results with medicinal shrooms that I got in D.C. I would say that the experiences bordered on the profound and definitely helped me move past some recent near-death trauma in my life. While I am not as much of a fan of MDMA I could see a similar situation where, if done responsibly, it could yield wonderful results. Best of luck to all the researchers…

Live near DC. Color me curious.

The "gifting" scheme of DC seems sketchy AF to me: an awkward and awful compromise to sidestep useful regulation that would create more safety, reliability, and transparency.

Am I wrong?

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Post by sleight42 »

Simulacra wrote: post #32

My husband did ketamine therapy last year and I think it saved his life. He had suffered from depression and PTSD since his time in the military, and no amount of medications and therapies could breakthrough. Ketemine saved him and we're 11 months out and he's still doing amazing.

Stellate Ganglion Block is amazing for PTSD. I've had IV ketamine. I experienced perhaps a 20-30% improvement. After bilateral SGB: order of magnitude improvement.

Getting triggered, I use to take hours or days to recover. Now, it can be minutes to hours.

I'm not kidding. My life is immeasurably improved. Cannot recommend the Stellate Institute in Annapolis, MD enough.

For PTSD, please, if you can, seek out ultrasound guided SGB.

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