English speakers are apparently the only culture that doesn't care about cultural appropriation.
Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English words
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#352On the one hand: If your culture needs a preservation movement, it's not a culture, but a relic. Culture is defined by people, not some sacred thing that needs to be preserved. How much of the Italian cuisine they're trying to protect would exist if they had the same attitude in the 1500s, when the tomato was introduced to Italy? On the other hand: I think countries should resist global cultural homogenisation. No of…
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>There is little 'european culture' left ...
That's your opinion, and it strikes me. I don't understand the difference between what you call "fossilized cultural artifacts" and "alive culture and thought". In france, there are a lot of linguistic communities that still talks local tongues, and there are some events in which people reunite themselves in order to perform some folkloric dances (not related to age). Is this a fossilized cultural artifact ?
A lot of the good films I saw the past years were from europe. I really enjoyed the contemporary scandinavian scene recently, you could try to enlarge your vision and watch different things (recommendation [0]) There's a crazy amount of artistic domains, and I can't believe that someone (as you just did) can think of having scanned successfully the whole Europe cultural practices to be allowed to say " european culture is gone". Music, dance and visual arts are being created everyday : does it constitutes a part of what you call "culture" ? Concerning the public intellectuals you talk about, well, they were only a diffusion channel for one part of the european culture , and I don't think their death implies the death of culture, but rather the lowering of the signal amplitude perception from USA.
Re: Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English words
#353On the one hand: If your culture needs a preservation movement, it's not a culture, but a relic. Culture is defined by people, not some sacred thing that needs to be preserved. How much of the Italian cuisine they're trying to protect would exist if they had the same attitude in the 1500s, when the tomato was introduced to Italy? On the other hand: I think countries should resist global cultural homogenisation. No of…
I remember visiting a shopping mall in Stuttgart. From the parking garage, to the building architecture, to the layout, to the businesses, to the advertising signs, you could not tell you were in a country other than the US. It was kinda sad.
Re: Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English words
#354On the one hand: If your culture needs a preservation movement, it's not a culture, but a relic. Culture is defined by people, not some sacred thing that needs to be preserved. How much of the Italian cuisine they're trying to protect would exist if they had the same attitude in the 1500s, when the tomato was introduced to Italy? On the other hand: I think countries should resist global cultural homogenisation. No of…
> Culture is defined by people, not some sacred thing that needs to be preserved
A counter to this is the Académie Française [0]
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acad%C3%A9mie_Fran%C3%A7aise
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#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you are underestimating how many people in the upper middle class in Mumbai have some form of family here and are thus impacted by American gun violence. Indian and American societies are link way deeper than political relations show.
There's no possible way to underestimate the effects of US gun violence on even the upper-middle class of Mumbai.
I think you mean overestimate
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#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's considerably different in Italy since Florence never had any sort of political dominance over Italy. Even though it was very briefly formidable during the Renaissance, its influence has otherwise been mostly cultural only. Because of this, authors and scientists settled on a Koinè based on Florentine during the Renaissance. Until the 19th century, it was barely spoken, even in Tuscany.
I'm not sure that's quite correct given the banking sector (Medici) originates in Florence (Tuscany generally) who had considered political power over the pope (Rome), and hence across the kingdoms/country.
I was actually referring to precisely that. And sponsoring Renaissance artists and scientist contributed to the eminence of Florentin.
Control over the Church was rarely as useful within Italy as outside of it. The papacy always had strong enemies on the peninsula. Much of its policy was dedicated to keep them divided and to ensure that those didn't ally with outside powers.
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#357Earlier quoted context omitted.
Obama got a reception like he was the Pope on his first European trip. It spans more than just the Nobel committee.
> Obama got a reception like he was the Pope on his first European trip. It spans more than just the Nobel committee. First not being Bush wrote a lot of checks he couldn't cash. People believed for some reason that he was leftist, and later discovered how much to the right, American "left" is. And American media also distorted a bit what was actually happening. Neither democratic nor republican media would show thei…
> People believed for some reason that he was leftist, and later discovered how much to the right, American "left" is.
What nonsense. That US Democratic Party politics often leans more right than many popular European parties on the left is not some modern post-Obama discovery, and was widely understood long before Obama's presidency. Literally read any political memoir or history by a left-leaning European politician who interacted with the US and Democratic party leadership prior to Obama and you will pick up a sense of this.
I can accept arguments Obama may have been treated with much more interest and excitement than perhaps he warranted in European media at that time, but I see little evidence this was because his politics were misunderstood - Obama's policy positions were generally easy to articulate. I think a simpler explanation might well lie in the obvious historic nature of the event; he was the first black man to hold the office, and the first Democratic president after two terms of Bush. These facts alone are "newsworthy" by the standards of modern media.
"leftist" is an absolutely terrible classification to use in any debate about politics, given its generally only ever used reductively and is almost devoid of any actual meaning.
Re: Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English words
#358Those clowns we have at government are so stupid they don't remember the Art.11 of Italian Constitution, guarantee of freedom of speech and opinion: that law is explicitly unconstitutional and will be abrogated by the "Corte Costituzionale" , the tribunal competent in constitutional questions, at first appeal. Good job ! With all the urgent problem in Italy, lets waste public resources with this nationalist bullshit !
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#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
> rather the way of thinking about the world. As an American who has lived in the US my whole life, it can be tough to see outside the box, so to speak. What parts of the US worldview are being exported? How does it differ with traditional attitudes?
A few examples: Your far-right political movements, especially religious movements, are actively trying to export themselves to Europe, with varying success depending on the specific trend. A large part of corporate culture, as people in EU management still long for an idealized version of what exists in the US. Outside of a few pockets, EU entertainment has more or less completely been wiped out now, so any culture…
> Your far-right political movements
A nit - it seems the US far-right is adopting tactics from European far-right history and not the other way around. Trump literally used the words "blood and soil" at some point and Fox is mastering the art of propaganda.