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Re: Twitter was down

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Post by shagmin »

dagmx wrote: post #95
shadowgovt wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If these systems ever go down, its link rot at scale Only if one's mental model is that t.co links were ever permanent. They're privately-owned obfuscator links. Unless someone in the wild was building a mirror mapping, they were always doomed and never to be trusted; they knocked the "U" right out of the "URL."

Isn’t that true of any url though? The U is for uniformly useable, it never guarantees uniform resolution.

It's even more-so true for t.co URLs though because instead of just 1 point of failure there are 2 points of failure. The original URL may work for another decade but if you don't know what the URL is behind the t.co URL and Twitter is down or whatever, then you're just out of luck.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by Ambolia »

paxys wrote: post #151

There were many different hypotheses on the outcome of Elon firing 80%+ of Twitter employees: 1. The site would crash and burn the next day. 2. Nothing would change. All those engineers were anyways just sitting around. 3. There would be no immediate impact (servers can run by themselves after all), but the site would slowly degrade over time as institutional knowledge around maintenance, upkeep and all the various s…

Option 4., Twitter was always bad and had strange bugs and outages, but now it's political and people care.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by mikeyouse »

anonuser123456 wrote: post #61
nkozyra wrote: post #25

I don't think I could have predicted - even given the wanton layoffs - that the service would deteriorate so quickly across the board. I barely use the app anymore and half the time stuff isn't loading at all or is broken in obvious, overt ways. Just ... stunning.

As someone that I think the previous twit sphere would accuse of being right wing adjacent, I’m shocked at the dumpster fire that twitter has become from a content standpoint. Like.. wokeness was annoying but the trash heap of craziness it is today is 5 steps backward. My feed is nothing but conspiratorial nonsense. If twitter was “tilted left” before, today it seems to have capsized rightward.

Right, it turns out that bringing back a bunch of previously banned trolls will chase more centrist people away, leaving only the trolls and those who like to argue with them. Not sure if there have been algorithm tweaks as well (aside from the obnoxious removal of the sort by latest button Elon swore he'd keep), my feed is the same. Combined with the stupid "Trending" tweaks and it's a worse version of Reddit.

I honestly can't believe that not only did he welcome back actual Nazis that were previously banned, but he sold them checkmarks that let them have outsized influence.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by mjr00 »

grumple wrote: post #296
mjr00 wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can never know the true impact because people will spin the narrative to say what they want. This hour-long outage occurred because Twitter laid off their engineers. Meanwhile, AWS had a major outage that lasted over half a day and took down Slack among other major internet infrastructure in December 2021[0], but we can't blame that on layoffs so we just ignore it, I guess. There's really no correlation between l…

There's definitely a correlation. But not having layoffs just doesn't mean no outages.

> There's definitely a correlation.

Where is the evidence of this?

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by bhaak »

jurassicfoxy wrote: post #162
Zetice wrote: post #147

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Reddit is fine? Not sure what this means…

Reddit crashes almost weekly it seems. Search is completely broken. The site's UI (new, not old.reddit) is truly atrocious.

Reddit's search was never unbroken, though. So business as usual.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by bfeynman »

emilsedgh wrote: post #268
paxys wrote: post #151

There were many different hypotheses on the outcome of Elon firing 80%+ of Twitter employees: 1. The site would crash and burn the next day. 2. Nothing would change. All those engineers were anyways just sitting around. 3. There would be no immediate impact (servers can run by themselves after all), but the site would slowly degrade over time as institutional knowledge around maintenance, upkeep and all the various s…

4. Something in between? In short term we'll see some issues but overall nothing important will change and these downtimes and small issues are a justifiable cost for letting such massive cut in the payroll.

lol, I guess every tech company that has major KPIs for availability is wrong and people are totally fine with apps being down constantly, and new users will totally come back after trying to signup and failing. It's a tech company, a few thousand employees supporting perhaps hundreds of millions of users is pretty standard economies of scale.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by Forgeties79 »

emilsedgh wrote: post #268
paxys wrote: post #151

There were many different hypotheses on the outcome of Elon firing 80%+ of Twitter employees: 1. The site would crash and burn the next day. 2. Nothing would change. All those engineers were anyways just sitting around. 3. There would be no immediate impact (servers can run by themselves after all), but the site would slowly degrade over time as institutional knowledge around maintenance, upkeep and all the various s…

4. Something in between? In short term we'll see some issues but overall nothing important will change and these downtimes and small issues are a justifiable cost for letting such massive cut in the payroll.

>these downtimes and small issues are a justifiable cost for letting such massive cut in the payroll.

Well we're not even a year in and these "small issues" seem to be repeatedly occurring. Let's get a little further out with some more stability before we call them justifiable lol

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by tablespoon »

isoprophlex wrote: post #288
stronglikedan wrote: post #244

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A simple and short lived glitch does not a #3 make. Twitter is better than ever now. Elon did good.

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> How is it better than ever? I told the damn thing I have no interest in seeing ol' Muskrat's posts, yet there it is on my timeline: [0]

I bet that's by design. His posts weren't getting as much engagement as he thought they should, so his tweets now get an artificial boost to "fix" the algorithm.

> [0] on the risk of feeding the troll, here it is: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632574090216103937

As long as it's acceptable to say stuff like "men are trash," that post is in the clear.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by egypturnash »

EarlKing wrote: post #274
dom96 wrote: post #197

Shameless plug: I created a browser extension to help transition to Mastodon[0]. If you don't yet feel like you can leave twitter.com, but want to explore alternatives it's a great way to get started. Essentially it injects Mastodon posts into your Twitter timeline, so you can retain your existing Twitter following while getting exposed to Mastodon. [0] - https://chirper.picheta.me

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looks at this post

looks at her chill, friendly instance full of furries

Working as intended, enjoy your Twitter. Nothing to see here over on Mastodon.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by somehnguy »

_zzaw wrote: post #239
cratermoon wrote: post #225

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What is http code 467? Something Twitter made up?

What, they didn't go with something like 420, or even 69? I guess there's still one aspect of the company that Musk hasn't "fixed" yet...

He'll probably bring this back, claim to have invented it, and ban/threaten to sue anyone who says otherwise: https://evertpot.com/http/420-enhance-your-calm
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