“Open source” seeds loosen Big Ag’s grip on farmers

Post by pfdietz » Sun, Feb 12, 2023, 3:45 AM UTC

shmerl wrote: post #350

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They serve a legitimate public purpose, to allow the creators of new plant varieties to earn enough to justify their creation. Why are you entitled to the results of this effort but deny the creators their due? Do you think these varieties just come into existence out of thin air, and those patenting them are somehow unfairly exploiting a windfall?

That's a sarcastic post I assume? Because the notion of patenting life forms is simply evil. No one should be entitled to it. And those who allowed it are corrupt crooks.

Post by bob29 » Sun, Feb 12, 2023, 4:47 AM UTC

pfdietz wrote: post #347

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Our illiterate ancestors have been doing it for thousands of years.

That's a whopper of a non sequitur. I was asking about the specific patent on these potatoes. Our ancestors have been growing this specific patented version of potatoes for thousands of years? Really?

Post by shmerl » Sun, Feb 12, 2023, 4:54 AM UTC

pfdietz wrote: post #351

shmerl wrote: post #350

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That's a sarcastic post I assume? Because the notion of patenting life forms is simply evil. No one should be entitled to it. And those who allowed it are corrupt crooks.

I utterly reject your assertion that patenting life forms is evil. There is nothing wrong with it. Indeed, patenting crop plants can greatly contribute to human welfare. I consider your interference with that for spurious reasons to be the evil here.

Post by pfdietz » Sun, Feb 12, 2023, 9:36 PM UTC

bob29 wrote: post #353

pfdietz wrote: post #347

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That's a whopper of a non sequitur. I was asking about the specific patent on these potatoes. Our ancestors have been growing this specific patented version of potatoes for thousands of years? Really?

No, they have been cross pollinating parents with desirable traits to produce an offspring with more desirable traits. The same thing Pepsi did to make FC5 potato. Here is the patent for the FC5 potato. https://patents.google.com/patent/US6940004B2/en Read it carefully because while the patent claims that it also would apply if transgenic modifications are added, the variety was developed through just classic breedin…

Post by shmerl » Sun, Feb 12, 2023, 11:03 PM UTC

pfdietz wrote: post #358

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Utterly rejecting won't whitewash it and excusing this with "contributing to welfare" is double evil in itself. Those who wanted to contribute to welfare wouldn't have tried to patent it. Like those in the above link for example. They contribute to welfare, not the scum like Monsanto and Co.

I'm just informing you that your ethics here are without rational foundation. Why should anyone care one iota what you consider to be evil, if you cannot justify it? This merely reflects your irrational phobias, not anything anyone else needs to take seriously.