"For more than a decade now, the fact that people have a hard time gaining actionable insights from their data has been blamed on its size." The real issue is that business people usually ignore what the data says. Wading through data takes a huge amount of thought, which is in short supply. Data Scientists are commonly disregarded by VPs in large corporations, despite the claims about being "data driven". Most corpo…
Big data is dead
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I used to joke that Data Scientists exist not to uncover insights or provide analysis, but merely to provide factoids that confirm senior management's prior beliefs. I did several experiments, and noticed that whenever I produced analysis that was in line with what management expected - my analysis was praised and widely disseminated. Nobody would even question data completeness, quality, whatever. They would pick so…
> Data Scientist's job is to launder management's intuition using quantitative methods Ouch. This is savage, but sadly correct in many cases. HOWEVER, to play devil's advocate here, I've also seen corporate data scientists overstate the conclusions / generalizability of their analysis. I've also seen data scientists fall prey to believing that their analysis proves would should be done, rather than what is likely to…
So often, those models proved to be over-fitted and not generalizable.
But too many decision makers simply can't properly judge such results.
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Yeah, "customer obsession" really just means "market share / growth obsession" which is a means to (eventually) making monopoly profits. Which Amazon seems to have achieved.
One may follow the other, but not vice versus. It's a pretty strong argument to say that Microsoft under Gates was technically obsessed, but that really faltered under Balmer. Microsoft continued to win profits, but they made major strategic missteps that cost the revenue. Amazon feels like it's going down the same path: empowering the tree-gazers without remembering that the forest also matters.
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> if your data can fit into RAM, what exactly are we talking about Big Data for? That's a fantastic point, and I keep mentioning the COST paper to anyone who cares: https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/hotos15/hotos...
COVID was proof The Right Data is better than Big Data. All those data sources to measure how many sick people we have and it turns out we just need one: Wastewater.
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Exactly. It isn't just time to set up all the data in a way that makes the right query possible. It is also having queries fast enough to be able to run a vast number of them in order to find what you are looking for (or even things you were not looking for). https://didgets.substack.com/p/data-science-and-serendipity
Is it queries on live data or data thats been moved usually?
Getting your data to the cloud is expensive, but then you can’t do anything with it because distributing it to process in multiple stages is too expensive and you’re already paying so much to keep all that useless data.
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>ChatGPT is literally changing how school will test their students, for a start. Sure, instead of schools checking for plagiarism from other students' papers using turnitin.com, they'll check for plagiarism using ChatGPT tools that scan for known output from their industrial-scale amalgamation of plagiarized materials. Big whoop.
It appears that it's hard to detect AI generated content. E.g. true detection rates are only around 25% and there are also techniques to further mask output [1]. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/innovation/chatgpt-can-help-foo...
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> Data Scientist's job is to launder management's intuition using quantitative methods Ouch. This is savage, but sadly correct in many cases. HOWEVER, to play devil's advocate here, I've also seen corporate data scientists overstate the conclusions / generalizability of their analysis. I've also seen data scientists fall prey to believing that their analysis proves would should be done, rather than what is likely to…
What does a “normative” lens mean?
Positive claims are about what is true. Normative claims are about what should be true, or rather what decisions we should make. Put another way, positive claims deal only with facts while normative claims deal also with values.
GP is saying that it's the data-scientist's job to give the executive the facts and it's the executive's job to decide what to do about the facts.
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#358"For more than a decade now, the fact that people have a hard time gaining actionable insights from their data has been blamed on its size." The real issue is that business people usually ignore what the data says. Wading through data takes a huge amount of thought, which is in short supply. Data Scientists are commonly disregarded by VPs in large corporations, despite the claims about being "data driven". Most corpo…
I used to joke that Data Scientists exist not to uncover insights or provide analysis, but merely to provide factoids that confirm senior management's prior beliefs. I did several experiments, and noticed that whenever I produced analysis that was in line with what management expected - my analysis was praised and widely disseminated. Nobody would even question data completeness, quality, whatever. They would pick so…
>> Whenever my analysis contradicted - there was so much scrutiny in numbers, data quality, etc, and even after answering all questions and concerns - analysis would be tossed away as non-actionable/useless/etc.
It's a good sign at the company that I run, anytime our analysts/data scientists come up with metrics that say we're killing it, or that our ideas should bear a ton of fruit, the kneejerk reaction is to be extremely skeptical of the results. Usually they're still right.
When the data scientists say we're fucking something up, we tend to pay a lot more attention.
Only the paranoid survive, after all.
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#359I've made anecdotal observations similiar to this over the last 10 years. I work in AgTech. A big push for a while here has been "more and more more data". Sensor-the-heck out of your farm, and We'll Tell You Things(tm). Most of what we as an industry are able to tell growers is stuff they already know or suspect. There is the occasional suprise or "Aha" moment where some correlation becomes apparent, but the thing a…
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Authoritarian types consider any information derived by science which is contrary to their position as invalid or irrelevant because facts challenge their authority and ability to exercise control.
yes. I used to think the Church had a honest disagreement with Galileo about heliocentricity. When I grew up I realized the Church never cared about orbits at all, what they care about is maintenance of status quo. And then when I got old, I realized, there is even a reason that some people want status quo... because they have usually been around long enough to see society fall apart into anarchy and mass murder, so…