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Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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This seems to simply be how Patreon operates: yearly layoffs

Yeah. They have had a major layoff every year for the last 3 years. Are they just engineering a kind of forced unregretted attrition? The alternative is that it's just complete chaos in there.

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Who are those competitors? The subject company is tho only one I know of like this. But I am not really active in the creative space so I'm ignorant.

Subscribestar, which I'm much more of a fan of since they have more common sense rules around NSFW art.

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Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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+1 That's just not how VCs work. Basically it's you HAVE to always show hockey stick growth. Steady 5-10% per year isn't good enough. It has to grow exponentially. So that's why you keep hiring and keep spreading out the service into a whole bunch of other areas.

I’m just going to point out that growing 10% per year is actually exponential growth

Which is why every founder should always promise 11% growth. Because most companies only grow at 10% - if they're lucky...

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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>I take full responsibility for choosing that original path forward, and for the resulting changes today, which will be so difficult for our team. What does "take full responsibility" mean? Is he laying himself off instead of the employees? Is he paying the employees he's laying off out of his pocket? Is he resigning so this doesn't happen again? I'm confused how you can just say "I take full responsibility" without…

It means ‘there are layoffs because of poor management decisions and it isn’t your fault if you’re being laid off and it isn’t your fault if you feel you pushed the company towards these management decisions that ultimately led to your colleagues being laid off’.

That is like the killer admitting to killing someone and it was their fault but they don't want to deal any jail time.

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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>I take full responsibility for choosing that original path forward, and for the resulting changes today, which will be so difficult for our team. What does "take full responsibility" mean? Is he laying himself off instead of the employees? Is he paying the employees he's laying off out of his pocket? Is he resigning so this doesn't happen again? I'm confused how you can just say "I take full responsibility" without…

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the expression, but usually when English speakers say they "take full responsibility" for a tragedy or unfortunate occurrence, they mean from a moral and blame-based standpoint, it's rarely related to the finances of those affected. The laid off employees are the ones ultimately worse off by the outcome, that goes without saying, what you're missing is that this is different from being…

That's what they think they are saying. What it actually means is "It is my mistake that I admit is mine, you get fucked, I keep my chair and take zero actual consequences for it"

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

#356

I subscribe to a single Patreon. It's an artist publishing an online comic. I pay for day-ahead access vs the public site. Reading the thing I pay for is fucking _painful_ on Patreon. So is trying to use their comment system to interact with the creator or other fans. Everything is slow-loading infinite scroll with tons of "load more" links. It is absolutely dreadful and every time I interact with the site I'm remind…

As a creator it sucks too. I manage a small patreon page for a Discord bot and every time I edit our page I have to relearn how to use the interface. Every time I want to make a post I forget how to...make a post? How in god's name is it possible to make an interface so bad that one has to remember how to make a post? It's completely unintuitive. This is not something that should be difficult lol. (The part I forget is adding alt text to images, although I think there might be other parts I forget too. I don't post that often, it's a small page for a side project.)

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Back in the day it meant falling on your sword and letting someone better/new take over.

Luckily, these days we value lessons learned from mistakes.

Which is why we let the well connected people who make mistakes keep trying the same strategies because they’re sure to work out next time.

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Full post from Jack Conte's Instagram post: "Hi everyone - I have some sad news to share: today, Patreon is doing a layoff of about 80 employees, about 17% of our team. This was ultimately my decision, so I wanted you all to hear directly from me about the reasoning. Before I do, I want to say two things: first, today will be painful for many people, and I am deeply sorry to the incredible teammates who will be leavi…

>I take full responsibility for choosing that original path forward, and for the resulting changes today, which will be so difficult for our team. What does "take full responsibility" mean? Is he laying himself off instead of the employees? Is he paying the employees he's laying off out of his pocket? Is he resigning so this doesn't happen again? I'm confused how you can just say "I take full responsibility" without…

Do you expect him to commit seppuku in the town square or something?

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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It'd be good to see Patreon face some more serious competition. They are by far the dominant force in their segment.

Not being in the know, what are the serious competitors to Patreon? Utreon? Buy Me a Coffee? Youtube itself?

https://coil.com/ for a "self-hosted" solution
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