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It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Microsoft have realised their investment has a limited number of years of life left in it. The main audience has grown up. To keep the brand alive they need to aggressively pursue the younger generation and tailor the game to them. Hence the safety features which the older audience don't care for.

I still maintain my stance that Microsoft ruined Minecraft by turning it into an investment.

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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It's apparently a minority voice opinion here on HN, but I for one appreciate what Microsoft is trying to do. As a parent of a 6 and 9 year old who have really gotten into Minecraft during COVID, I appreciate them basically deciding "We want Minecraft to be a game for kids and an online community that is nice." I get why people are frustrated, but I also like the idea of a global decision that forces servers open to…

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Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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post #94

It's apparently a minority voice opinion here on HN, but I for one appreciate what Microsoft is trying to do. As a parent of a 6 and 9 year old who have really gotten into Minecraft during COVID, I appreciate them basically deciding "We want Minecraft to be a game for kids and an online community that is nice." I get why people are frustrated, but I also like the idea of a global decision that forces servers open to…

I think the issue is the ease of getting users banned, and the lack of actual moderating at all that is the problem. It literally is as easy as fill out the form, user is automatically banned, no verification required. Microsoft is not actually enforcing anything. My son is 10 and has been playing Minecraft for most of his life. I would consider him quite good at it. I sometimes watch. Every couple of months one of h…

> It literally is as easy as fill out the form, user is automatically banned, no verification required.

Hahahaha. No. Eventually, mass reporting could make it happen, but a single report does not cause a ban. If that's what your kid or his friends have told you, they're lying to you.

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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As someone who used to be a part of the Minetest scene, it's not even remotely close. While it's low-end requirements are better, it runs remarkably poorly for what it is. It's (default subgame is) a decade behind Minecraft in terms of usability/features. It's barely maintained, especially after one of the big modders and graphics developers died to a heart disease. And with the mods, it's only "easier" at the very s…

> No custom keybindings, no overriding mouse controls. You can, but you have to change it in the config file. Instead of resolving this limitation, they documented it on the wiki: https://wiki.minetest.net/Controls#PC I don't understand how things can be this mediocre for so long; other open source implementations of popular proprietary games aren't like this. OpenTTD, OpenRCT2 and OpenMW are all more feature rich an…

I suspect Minetest's status owes a lot to its name that sort of implies being a test implementation rather than a game proper.

Any MC alternative will becomr popular when MS removes or closes down MC JE, which is imminent because presumably without it people can publish patches that bypass protections as described in the linked thread

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Can you name a single moderation system that operates on this scale that will not automatically ban someone for getting mass reported? This is a fairly well known phenomenon.

That's obviously not what's happening here though. I have plenty of adult friends who go on public and private servers and actively trash talk during games and have never been banned. And none of their friends have been banned. A small group of 10 year-old children aren't having a coordinated attack of hundreds to thousands of reports against them repeatedly over many months. Not to mention tacking on the requirement…

Perhaps the server you’re playing on has a plugin that disables chat reporting?

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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In League of Legends you can disable chat and still kinda strategize with your team using minimap pings. You can still communicate, but limited to bare essentials.

Are pings rate limited?

If you abuse pings too fast, you will get stopped after five seconds (which still allows for a good 20 pings to be sent, that all make sound and bleep on your minimap). But otherwise, you can just stay and do it slowly, and there's no limits.

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Hi, orsond from the fifth column here. The Fifth Column is a Minecraft hacking and griefing group. We created Project Copenhiemer which is a Minecraft server scanning tool. Copenhiemer scans the internet every 20 minutes for minecraft servers, logs players, server versions, mods and more. Originally we had created it to find players and grief their server worlds, highlighting how much information about players is lea…

As someone who is over 18, and has a child who is under 18, I would quite like to play with them.

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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I strongly disagree with Microsoft's stance. But I also think the issue is way overblown. You can simply mod servers so that they don't have this chat reporting. If everyone in the Minecraft community is so opposed, just create and exclusively join modded servers. Does not matter if they get labeled "Not Secure" if 90% of well-known popular servers have it, and there are tools and tutorials everywhere which make it s…

Note that you can't mod Bedrock servers (which is the remade, not-running-like-dogshit Minecraft. For now, they are at feature parity, but nothing guarantees that Java edition stays for long)

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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I have no issue with Microsoft setting community standards for the online spaces they run, or anybody else for that matter. But Microsoft is setting community standards for places they do not run here, just because these spaces use their software. This is ridiculous, and sets yet another dangerous precedent. What's next? Maybe Office 360 profanity filter, where your Office 360 account gets banned for writing about th…

> I have no issue with Microsoft setting community standards for the online spaces they run That is the problem though. They run it, not the users like it used to be.

What do you mean? You can still download a dedicated server and run it on your own infra. I would say the users are running that and not Microsoft.

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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post #94

It's apparently a minority voice opinion here on HN, but I for one appreciate what Microsoft is trying to do. As a parent of a 6 and 9 year old who have really gotten into Minecraft during COVID, I appreciate them basically deciding "We want Minecraft to be a game for kids and an online community that is nice." I get why people are frustrated, but I also like the idea of a global decision that forces servers open to…

> Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't see anything in their process that suggests that a group of adults playing with their friends are at risk of having their chat audited in the absence of a complaint?

That sounds like "why want the right to privacy if you have nothing illegal to hide".

Do you guarantee that if your kids end up on an adult server (yes, there are 18+ private servers) you will just get them off there instead of complaining that the chat is full of adult conversation and getting the entire community banned? Considering you want Microsoft to "protect your kids" i strongly doubt it.

And yes, the 18+ server I play on is access restricted, but you can get in (but not build) to evaluate if the server suits your play style before applying. You may get in in the middle of a discussion laced with politics and sex because THIS IS AN ADULT SERVER.

Also, complaints can be malicious. Do you really think MS is willing to put in the resources to evaluate a complaint properly?

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