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Re: The Closed, Unfriendly World of Wikipedia

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Post by ericdschmidt » Sun, Nov 27, 2011, 9:59 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #91

philwelch wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article is a usability study of a scenario where a committed but novice domain expert has something to contribute to the Wikipedia process. The deleted article itself is just a MacGuffin.

Or, it is now that we can see how flimsy the article itself turned out to be. By the way: it appears to have been written by Jessie Stricchiola herself (classy move, that).

I didn't come away with the impression that it was flimsy at all. The rant linked to is written by Danny Sullivan, an eminent SEO expert (the most famous one I'm aware of). I would tend to trust his estimation of a person's notability in the SEO industry.

Re: The Closed, Unfriendly World of Wikipedia

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Post by thoane » Tue, Nov 29, 2011, 2:50 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #51

You can tell someone hasn't spent much time at AfD, the section of Wikipedia where people (anyone in the world, really) discuss whether articles should be deleted, by the outrage they express at the "arbitrariness" of Wikipedia's notability rules. Have you spent any time at AfD? Let me help you out: here's the AfD log for the week they killed "Jessie_Stricchiola": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_d…

{{delete}} [[Jessie_Stricchiola]], uses wikipedia for SEO not to actually share encyclopedic content. ~~~~

Re: The Closed, Unfriendly World of Wikipedia

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Post by mehwoot » Wed, Nov 30, 2011, 4:21 AM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #348

mehwoot wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because they've spent "literally a decade" working out their inclusion rules, doesn't mean they ended up at the right spot. Nokia spent "literally a decade" working on smart phones but where did they end up?

That's true, but a different problem. Nokia may have been wrong, but somebody wandering in into a manufacturing plant and shouting "your smartphones suck" wouldn't have changed the discussion.

Granted, I don't expect that wikipedia will change.