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AdGuard publishes the first ad blocker built on Manifest V3

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Re: AdGuard publishes the first ad blocker built on Manifest V3

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Post by maskros »

jacooper wrote: post #302
maskros wrote: post #289

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Not true. Firefox is vastly better in terms of rendering quality for scaled and/or transformed raster images. Chrome always sacrifices quality for performance, with no way to choose. Firefox's SVG support is also miles ahead, both in rendering quality and features.

This is only a part of a browser engine. Security? Website isolation? Performance? And many other things are just simply better in chromium. https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.ht... Yes Google is abusing its influence on chromium, but one must admit, its simply the best engine out there.

Chrome has crap image rendering. Chrome has sub-par SVG support. Chrome has a host of issues and bugs with media selectors and imagesets not updating dynamically when changing zoom levels.

So no, one must not admit it is "simply the best engine out there". Not by a long shot.

Re: AdGuard publishes the first ad blocker built on Manifest V3

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Post by vehemenz »

willk wrote: post #320
vehemenz wrote: post #255

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This is pure anecdote and not apples and oranges, but I've found the ad-blocking experience with Safari/Adguard comparable to Firefox/uBO.

I have not. Now I need an other application running in the background. Moreover, if AdGuard needs to up, then you're going to need to restart Safari. Also, I have to enable 8 different extensions to get it to work?

AdGuard actually works as a regular Safari extension. The background application is only if you want to selectively block ads per site, or to run updates automatically. You can still open it to update filters and close whenever you want.

Re: AdGuard publishes the first ad blocker built on Manifest V3

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Post by 93po »

conschy wrote: post #261

Correction: Analytics & Ad Blocker by Globemallow.io https://globemallow.io/ was the first Manifest v3 Ad Block extension. I first published on 06/22/2022. Last night actually I asked if AdGuard would want to license the software, and sent them a link to my extension. They are aware they weren't the first, and made this post after knowing it.

Maybe their "technically" perspective is that they built theirs before you built yours. Or they're assuming they did. Even though you published first. It didn't say theirs was the first to be published, just the first to be built

Re: AdGuard publishes the first ad blocker built on Manifest V3

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Post by tssva »

BrendanEich wrote: post #307
tssva wrote: post #252

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I have no idea what they have been up to lately but when originally rolled out Brave's business model seemed very much like a protection racket. I haven't touched it since and never will.

We don't take fees to unblock ads, so you must mean the "acceptable ads" extensions and not Brave.

No, I meant you. As I understood it your software blocked ads at websites, presented your own ads and then you told website owners they could recoup some of their lost revenue by participating in your whole BAT scheme. That sounds pretty close to a protection racket.

Re: AdGuard publishes the first ad blocker built on Manifest V3

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Post by bornfreddy »

dcormier wrote: post #329
bornfreddy wrote: post #263

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This. While I appreciate the work AdBlock does, supporting MV3 is ludicrous. If no ad block extension supported it, it would be dead on arrival - with Chrome too (if Google tried to force it). Just let it be, fire up your Firefox and browse freely.

> While I appreciate the work AdBlock does, supporting MV3 is ludicrous. If no ad block extension supported it, it would be dead on arrival Only to people like us. The amount of tech-savvy people I see not using an ad blocker is surprising. As a user of an ad blocker, I definitely feel like I’m in a small minority in the real world.

My experience is different - almost everyone I know uses an ad blocker. Some of them have installed them for themselves, others have helpful friends. But I rarely see someone scrolling a webpage with the ads on it.

Re: AdGuard publishes the first ad blocker built on Manifest V3

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Post by willlma »

nfriedly wrote: post #299
ehsankia wrote: post #293

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Because that's off topic? I'm tired of seeing every single thread about MV3 turn into "Switch to Firefox". Yes, we know about that obvious solution, it's been shouted ad nauseum, I'm interested to see and hear about how ad blockers will work on MV3, not the existing alternative we've already heard about a billion times. Just look at this very thread, every other comment is just about Firefox and not the content of th…

Sure, I'm "preaching to the quior" here, but given Firefox's current market share, I'm not sure we've gotten the word out much beyond our circle. The article mentioned Safari a couple of times, I don't see why the fact that Firefox will support both V2 and V3 indefinitely doesn't deserve a single mention. Moreover, manifest V3 was essentially a massive middle finger from Google to everyone else (except advertisers),…

Sorry, I don't usually correct people on the internet, but I thought this one was funny. It's spelled "choir".

Re: AdGuard publishes the first ad blocker built on Manifest V3

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Post by wizofaus »

willlma wrote: post #357
nfriedly wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, I'm "preaching to the quior" here, but given Firefox's current market share, I'm not sure we've gotten the word out much beyond our circle. The article mentioned Safari a couple of times, I don't see why the fact that Firefox will support both V2 and V3 indefinitely doesn't deserve a single mention. Moreover, manifest V3 was essentially a massive middle finger from Google to everyone else (except advertisers),…

Sorry, I don't usually correct people on the internet, but I thought this one was funny. It's spelled "choir".

If I was gonna start a chorus for LGBTI singers I reckon I'd call it a "Quoir"!

Re: AdGuard publishes the first ad blocker built on Manifest V3

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Post by nfriedly »

willlma wrote: post #357
nfriedly wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, I'm "preaching to the quior" here, but given Firefox's current market share, I'm not sure we've gotten the word out much beyond our circle. The article mentioned Safari a couple of times, I don't see why the fact that Firefox will support both V2 and V3 indefinitely doesn't deserve a single mention. Moreover, manifest V3 was essentially a massive middle finger from Google to everyone else (except advertisers),…

Sorry, I don't usually correct people on the internet, but I thought this one was funny. It's spelled "choir".

LOL, whoops. Not sure where I came up with that spelling.

Re: AdGuard publishes the first ad blocker built on Manifest V3

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Post by mastazi »

jefftk wrote: post #88
Multicomp wrote: post #16

It is such a bummer to me that Firefox is implementing MV3 and deprecating MV2[1]. Internet Explorer 6 never left, it just became Google Chrome*. Vivaldi? Killed, Chrome clone. Edge? Killed, Chrome clone. Brave? Killed, Chrome clone. Firefox? Technically a separate engine and in theory among the last hopes, but so sclerotic it follows Chrome in almost all of its decisions. (Can MV2 be kept as a stable basic-security-…

> Vivaldi? Killed, Chrome clone. ... Brave? Killed, Chrome clone. Brave and Vivaldi have always been built on Chromium, because that was the easiest way for them to get started as new browsers. There wasn't some pre-Chromium version of either that was killed.*

> There wasn't some pre-Chromium version of either that was killed.*

Not true. Brave was initially based on Gecko https://brave.com/the-road-to-brave-one-dot-zero/

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