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Slack’s free plan change is causing an exodus
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Whats the performance of discourse compared to the mybbs or smfs of yesteryear. I heard it's very bloated? I've been meaning to self host some sort of forum software on a $5 vps fro some of my hobbies.
Discourse can be hosted on $15-20 VPS since it's need docker and fsr more disk space due to using containers.
I could run phpBB just fine on my $5-10/mo shared hosting.
It's one thing I don't like about many new tools (Slack alternatives, a lot of ActivityPub stuff, etc) - they require a lot more resources than shared hosting can provide, so you need a VPS, and all the headaches that go along with it.
Re: Slack’s free plan change is causing an exodus
#353People should understand this: A free tier is a loss-leader, intended to support sales of the paid product. If too many “…have been happily using Slack’s free plan for years”, then Slack will have to change the terms. Generally, storage and access to storage cost money. If you aren’t paying for it, it is definitely temporary, whether anyone says it explicitly or not. I don’t just mean in a “nothing lasts forever” way…
The same is to be said to a company no? If you offer free tooling for too long, pulling the plug will upset a lot of people
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#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is absolutely a self hosting option with Discourse, and in fact they encourage it. [0] Here is their install guide [1] [0] https://github.com/discourse/discourse [1] https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/main/docs/INSTAL...
IMO Discourse is crap. I've never personally seen any discourse communities that are as thriving and active as the phpBB, SMF, VBulletin, forums they replaced Something about the design of Discourse does not actually encourage discourse. On top of that, discourse is a resource hog. You can run tens of twenties of phpBB forums on the hardware that's required to run one instance of discourse
Yeah I hate it as well :( maybe someone should write an open source forum as well
Re: Slack’s free plan change is causing an exodus
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I wish we used Discord for work. It’s superior to Slack, MS Teams and googles chat thing by far.
How is Discord superior to Slack?
Roles and channel permissions. I can't assign a role to someone and grant them granular permissions in slack like I can discord. I'm either a guest, user, admin or owner.
Slack does app integrations and bots pretty well.
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#356Re: Slack’s free plan change is causing an exodus
#357Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some times I get confused at what I’m looking at with discourse. The scrolling timeline thing is super confusing . Much rather have paging.
Throughout my time developing a competitor to Discourse, I've found that opinions are generally split 50-50 for and against pagination. You can't really pick one method without alienating the other, but it is possible to allow the end user to choose. Part of the hate is that IS is associated with endless scrolling. It needn't be that way if appropriate navigational tools are also implemented alongside an IS setup.
The issue with discourse is it isn’t infinite scroll. They break up the timeline into the right side and if you have an exceptionally long timeline it will skip time periods thinking you just want the original post and the new stuff.
It makes it difficult to follow the conversations.
Pagination also makes copy pasting links easier.
Re: Slack’s free plan change is causing an exodus
#358This is amazing marketing. I would never know or care about Zulip but I like how they’re dissing Slack so now I’ll keep them in mind.
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#359Earlier quoted context omitted.
True, but there’s also something vital that does not show on the balance sheet (and can sink companies): Excellent tools spread through the best kind of word of mouth. Excellent tools that are free spread even faster and further. There’s no way to know how many corporate plans were sold because a single team member relied on Slack outside of work, or how many pro user accounts exist because someone was visiting a Sla…
Makes me wonder how long before Discord rolls out their enterprise tier. There are tons of Gen Z and Millenials using Discord who are likely in positions where they can make those kinds of decisions for the company. And it's a great and intuitive product too.
Discord has the worst ux of any chat software I have ever used, fwiw. There's a fascinating race to the bottom in this area.
Re: Slack’s free plan change is causing an exodus
#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is Discord superior to Slack?
Roles and channel permissions. I can't assign a role to someone and grant them granular permissions in slack like I can discord. I'm either a guest, user, admin or owner. Slack does app integrations and bots pretty well.
Example of granular permissions?