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Yes, but the (alleged) attack on the algorithm would have happened on blockchain, and would have been recorded as transactions in the blocks. Ironically, some attacks on blockchains themselves (like 51% attacks) are actually harder to analyze, because part of the evidence lives in blocks that were deliberately orphined from the blockchain, and the p2p network doesn't have any incentive to share those blocks. I've ana…
The (nonexistent) attack could have been conducted over exchanges though
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#352What's funny about this is that I can recall discussions here and elsewhere from only a few months ago questioning the "guaranteed" super-high returns. I forget who said this but someone awhile ago said in finance said that if someone is promising you consistent above-market returns it's either a scam or there is unknown or undisclosed risk. And the Crypto Andys were all like "you just don't understand DeFi!" to whic…
In the linked Terra Revival post there's this gem of a term: > Pre-attack Luna I love how we went straight from "what happened" to "it was an attack."
> Essential app developers looking to join for emergency allocation should signal public support for the net network on Twitter and social channels.
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> What should you write exactly? The facts. Copies of marketing you saw, statements showing what you invested and what you were paid, e-mails and other communication from the company and a statement of loss. There are links in this thread where promises were made that turned out to be lies; I would include those as well if you saw them ex ante .
Here's a sample letter: Dear government I'm trying to subvert, I complain about the instability of your useful, fiat currency, so I entered into a get rich quick scheme with no intention of reporting gains on my taxes. This obvious scam fell apart. Please punish them with the government system I don't believe in.
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> it's quite easy to find pockets of above-average returns if you're smart… Right, but even then how deep are those pockets (what amount of investment can they absorb without being tapped out), how big a time window will they exist for, how will you know if those limits are being reached, and are you really sure you can quantify all the risks? By definition if it’s a pocket of opportunity, it’s very constrained oppor…
Of course there are limits to every opportunity. I make money everyday from opportunities that exist on microsecond timescales. I run arb and loan liquidation bots, so I haven't had a single losing day, ever. The last two weeks were quite profitable for me, actually the best two week period I have ever had. There are other strategies that are easier to pull off, such as market making, that have moderate risks and out…
There’s a very low chance of that happening, but not zero.
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#355> While we have informed users that there are no absolute guarantees against risks I'm... uh.... fairly certain this was not the crux of their marketing which severly downplayed the underlying risk. There is also a huge spectrum between "we cannot guarantee that there is 0 risk" (which seems to be what the above sentence is saying), and "there exists a risk that all of your funds disappears in 24 hours". It seems lik…
This was their old marketing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31431915 - "15% interest. No surprises."
Re: We’re discontinuing the Stablegains service
#356What's funny about this is that I can recall discussions here and elsewhere from only a few months ago questioning the "guaranteed" super-high returns. I forget who said this but someone awhile ago said in finance said that if someone is promising you consistent above-market returns it's either a scam or there is unknown or undisclosed risk. And the Crypto Andys were all like "you just don't understand DeFi!" to whic…
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> Anyone who has studied quantitative finance knows that it is a HARD science. I worked with a Nobel prize winner in economics, and the math dominated. There was no politics, no opinions, no ethics involved. It really is a science. Your comment makes no sense. Just because there's modeling involved that does not make it a hard science. A hard science requires stuff like the ability to perform controlled experiments a…
It doesn't necessarily invalidate your point, but I would say astrophysics is a hard science, and yet a ton of it is based on observation and modeling of events we can't control or reproduce.
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#358Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Anyone who has studied quantitative finance knows that it is a HARD science. I worked with a Nobel prize winner in economics, and the math dominated. There was no politics, no opinions, no ethics involved. It really is a science. Your comment makes no sense. Just because there's modeling involved that does not make it a hard science. A hard science requires stuff like the ability to perform controlled experiments a…
It doesn't necessarily invalidate your point, but I would say astrophysics is a hard science, and yet a ton of it is based on observation and modeling of events we can't control or reproduce.
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What most people don't understand about finance is that there are fundamental rules that you really cannot break without consequences. Anyone who has studied quantitative finance knows that it is a HARD science. I worked with a Nobel prize winner in economics, and the math dominated. There was no politics, no opinions, no ethics involved. It really is a science. Most social media characterize finance as some ethical…
It's really striking how in recent years the Godwin point has been replaced from "everybody who disagrees is Hitler" to "everybody who disagrees is a anti-climate flat-vax earth-denier". It's really not helping getting any point across. In a way it is self-realizing polarization: because you are casting any criticism of "modern finance" into this "bundle of badness" this is likely to reinforce their position.
It is worrying to see that people tend to just click thumbs down when they don't agree rather than to pick the towel and build a strong argument against what they don't agree with.
Re: We’re discontinuing the Stablegains service
#360What's funny about this is that I can recall discussions here and elsewhere from only a few months ago questioning the "guaranteed" super-high returns. I forget who said this but someone awhile ago said in finance said that if someone is promising you consistent above-market returns it's either a scam or there is unknown or undisclosed risk. And the Crypto Andys were all like "you just don't understand DeFi!" to whic…
The fact that people are putting their money on the line without realising this extremely basic fact of finance is concerning to say the least. And the fact that YC actually invested in this company which claimed to contravene that basic rule is staggering.
StableGains was skimming off the top so they weren’t directly exposed to the risk of the underlying asset.