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No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by robotnikman »

the_only_law wrote: post #224
alexb_ wrote: post #105

I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

Is this guy making income from doing this? I may have to re-evaluate my career if I can pay my rent by mostly just dumping random internet content into a video.

The hard part is probably evading bans, that's probably the secret sauce to the operation.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by smrtinsert »

hbbio wrote: post #200
alexb_ wrote: post #105

I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

Obviously, the guy is just ripping StackOverflow. His "latest" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtqJq0OF8eA Is a poorly generated copy/paste of: https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/1644... Probably a tiny Python script. Google is prompt to ban other accounts, hope some Googlers around here can can do something...

Dead Internet

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by dredmorbius »

jcranberry wrote: post #269
dredmorbius wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not without logging in. "But how would that work if you're not" you ask? Simple: YT is already tracking cookies or session. The block should apply to the session itself. That said, I'm so done with Google.

Could you have even disliked without logging in?

Like/dislike is ... less useful, as that's both feedback in terms of "this is what I do / don't care for" and is ... semi-trusted crowdsourced quality information on the content itself.

I can see why YouTube wouldn't want to weight the latter much. It could still of course temporarily track like/dislike over the course of a session.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by dredmorbius »

abruzzi wrote: post #325
dredmorbius wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Don't log in. Ever. 2. Search. YT search is ... reasonable. Not great, but it typically turns up what you want. 3. Incognito mode *ONLY*. 4. Invidious, if at all possible. 5. Watch, or more often, listen , through a third-party client. I generally "experience" YouTube via mpv. I'll cue up a list of URLs I'm interested in. This is the most effective and convenient way of curating a playlist I'm aware of. VLC can al…

Actually, I HATE youtube search. Any search engine that changes and reorders responses when I click back to it drives me up a wall. I infrequently use youtube (maybe 2-3 videos a month) and because the search sucks so badly, I never search using youtube, but rather with Kagi or DDG video search.

I'm not going to discuss merits of the mechanics.

What I do know is that I can plug in terms and filters (typically dates / video length) to turn up something relevant most of the time.

Given that most of my searches are for lecture / podcast type material, that tends to work reasonably well for me.

Recent/current major news is of course a shitshow, though it can occasionally be useful. Increasingly I turn to major journalism channels for that information simply because the chumming around no-name submissions is so abysmally bad.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by creatonez »

hbbio wrote: post #200
alexb_ wrote: post #105

I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

Obviously, the guy is just ripping StackOverflow. His "latest" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtqJq0OF8eA Is a poorly generated copy/paste of: https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/1644... Probably a tiny Python script. Google is prompt to ban other accounts, hope some Googlers around here can can do something...

> hope some Googlers around here can can do something...

Has google ever escalated a low-level issue mentioned on social media, without the need for a huge tweetstorm combined with bad media coverage?

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by bcrosby95 »

philliphaydon wrote: post #125
alexb_ wrote: post #105

I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

You've probably ruined my recommendations forever now. :( I pretty much only stick to subscriber channels now except for stuff people send me. Since there's no dislikes I just don't browse the stuff available anymore. YouTube is definitely worse off without the dislike counter.

I use bookmarks. It sucks that you can't organize your subscriptions into folders.

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Post by ladyattis »

bowsamic wrote: post #86
ageitgey wrote: post #15

I don't personally think the dislike button is the explanation. But something seems to have changed in the Youtube recommendations algo in the last few weeks. In my experience, the algo has gotten very noticeably worse recently: - Recommending lots of 6 - 12 year old videos on topics I'm interested in (who cares about a 12 year old product review?) - Recommending tons of videos I've already seen or recommending reall…

Yep, about 3 weeks ago the recommendations algorithm fell apart and ever since it has been a strange experience. Half of my recommendations are normal, but extreme low quality is being pushed quite aggressively

I use to get a ton of 'clip' video recommendations which annoys me. Plus, any videos by channels I've subscribed are basically drowned out.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by nullc »

Lately youtube seems to think I want to watch a video uploaded 12 years ago on image processing based on non-negative matrix factorization. Probably the first video I ever watched on youtube.

... plus an endless sea of garbage videos with an annoying robot voice reading barely coherent text.

At least they got rid of the conspiracy attractor behavior where if you left it playing it would eventually fall into whacked conspiracy theories and never escape.

Though I did notice recently that it seems to have a meatloaf attractor behavior: if you leave it playing music videos it eventually lands on a meatloaf video and never escapes, sending me like a bat out of hell to trigger it to go to something else.

Don't get me started on all the thumbnails with the weird faces that would leave someone wondering whats really going on under the presenters table.

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