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Re: What are your most used self-hosted applications?

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Post by NortySpock »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #348

Asking for advice:(to HN of all places but eh...) I know nothing about docker. I have a handful of VMs(Jitsi, pfsense,VPN). Want to be able to set up useful self-hosted services at home without killing my family downtime. My current plan: yunohost https://yunohost.org/ and a RPi4 to see the possibilities. Then if I see a rock solid requirement maybe go for something more specific. (NixOS config seems interesting...)…

I don't think an RPi4 can keep up with Jitsi, but I have never attempted it.

I have not tried yunohost, but the interface looks nice.

docker is not required, but docker + docker compose, on an RPi4, with auto-restart of failed containers has been very solid for me.

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Post by selfhoster11 »

akkartik wrote: post #308
colordrops wrote: post #120

My main goal is to replace cloud services so I can be Google-free. I've also got LineageOS + MicroG on my phone. This is all running in docker containers on NixOS (other than OPNSense), with automated restic backups to a NAS as well as Backblaze. One of my goals is to be able to deploy all this again from scratch with minimal effort, and I think I succeeded, though haven't had to test it yet. Nextcloud - for caldav a…

How much time do you spend maintaining this stuff every month? Like upgrading versions, etc.? Do you subscribe to any security channels? Do you care what language it's built in, try to keep it all on a few languages to minimize maintenance burden, etc.? I've been considering self-hosting, but put off thus far by the above concerns.

Not OP, but I'm self-hosting for similar reasons. I don't spend very much time on maintenance - if a service is troublesome, it's not worth my time and gets the cut. I don't subscribe to any security newsletters or have any automated new version monitoring in place (yet), but I'm planning to do that at some point so that the home lab can run itself with minimal intervention beyond changing a few version numbers in docker-compose files and rerunning my "redeploy everything" script.

As for languages, it's a very marginal factor. If I have a large number of possible services in a given space, I usually gravitate towards Go, because most Go applications are closer to 12-Factor compliance and generally stability than, say, most Python applications. If I have no options or the best service in a given space is written in COBOL or something equally bad, I'll still take that. I'm quite pragmatic.

IMO, if you want to get into this, keep a few things in mind:

- Docker (Compose) will save you a lot of work

- if you want to expose stuff to the internet, you'll need to stay reasonably current with updates

- have a good system for backing up your data. Experimenting is far easier if you can back up what you've got, and start over from scratch to try a different approach. Doing this "live" is riskier.

Re: What are your most used self-hosted applications?

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Post by bsagdiyev »

JimBlackwood wrote: post #315
fudgefactorfive wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really really loved Plex, then suddenly my networks internet connection went down, no biggie I thought, I have my collection on Plex. Plex no longer worked offline at all. Not sure if that’s fixed, but I always saw it as a file server with a UI and webplayer. Plex also doesn’t let me pay for one premium subscription for the server so my family can watch old family guy episodes longer than 30 seconds on a phone. The…

I had a somewhat similar experience. I moved to a new server, installed plex, tried to set everything up under my existing account. It was impossible to move my account to a new server, it seemed to just expect my old one to still be there. After creating new accounts, removing the old server, etcetc. I just gave up and moved to Jellyfin. It’s been mostly equally good. Better in the sense that it stutters less on my…

I hit that the first time I moved servers. Turns out you need to backup and restore the configs on disk for there to be continuation. Doesn't make much sense honestly but whatever.

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Post by selfhoster11 »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #348

Asking for advice:(to HN of all places but eh...) I know nothing about docker. I have a handful of VMs(Jitsi, pfsense,VPN). Want to be able to set up useful self-hosted services at home without killing my family downtime. My current plan: yunohost https://yunohost.org/ and a RPi4 to see the possibilities. Then if I see a rock solid requirement maybe go for something more specific. (NixOS config seems interesting...)…

Check out the /r/selfhosted subreddit. It's an extremely useful resource.

Docker Compose has worked great for me so far. I'm not sure about Nix.

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Post by bibabaloo »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #348

Asking for advice:(to HN of all places but eh...) I know nothing about docker. I have a handful of VMs(Jitsi, pfsense,VPN). Want to be able to set up useful self-hosted services at home without killing my family downtime. My current plan: yunohost https://yunohost.org/ and a RPi4 to see the possibilities. Then if I see a rock solid requirement maybe go for something more specific. (NixOS config seems interesting...)…

Consider a "TinyMiniMicro" type slim PC instead of a RPi4. You'll get a lot more bang for your buck. https://www.servethehome.com/introducing-project-tinyminimic...

Re: What are your most used self-hosted applications?

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Post by selfhoster11 »

ryandrake wrote: post #177

Wow, the headline makes me feel kind of stupid and out of touch. When I think of the applications I run regularly, they're not "hosted" anywhere. They are native desktop applications that I run on my home computer. I do have a single server running 24/7 on my network, but I don't consider a home media NAS to be an "application" that is "self-hosted". It's just a linux box with a bunch of disks running NFS. Is NFS an…

A native application is just a web application without the extra steps.

If I had fewer devices, I'd definitely just run everything locally and forget about a lot of this cloud stuff. But I need access to certain things from 3 different devices with different OSes, so a hard drive full of data and Portable apps won't be enough.

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Post by selfhoster11 »

js4ever wrote: post #210
ryandrake wrote: post #177

Wow, the headline makes me feel kind of stupid and out of touch. When I think of the applications I run regularly, they're not "hosted" anywhere. They are native desktop applications that I run on my home computer. I do have a single server running 24/7 on my network, but I don't consider a home media NAS to be an "application" that is "self-hosted". It's just a linux box with a bunch of disks running NFS. Is NFS an…

The thing is desktop apps are Dead, for multiple reasons: - People don't trust anymore to install softwares on their computer, using them in the browser is safer - There is no good cross-platform UI, so nearly everything is now a web app - There is tons of good open-source softwares that you can self-host and use from anywhere instead of just one computer, also there is more expectations around sharing access to frie…

I completely disagree with the first two points. As to the last point, why do you need to follow anyone's expectations? Your data and personal servers are there to serve you first and foremost. If you want give people access, that's fine. I just don't see why you would feel obliged to do so.

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Post by selfhoster11 »

js4ever wrote: post #230
anderspitman wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People don't trust anymore to install softwares on their computer, using them in the browser is safer I doubt users know the difference. We got here because OS vendors don't trust users to install software on their computer. What we really need are simple, solid sandboxing APIs to empower developers to ship secure software. > There is no good cross-platform UI, so nearly everything is now a web app Yep. I spent the…

I doubt there will be a native GUI renaissance, look at the mac app store, it's not making a dent in the global direction and it's available since years. Ok it's only for a single platform, it's even worse on the windows app store! I think there is no way back for desktop apps. Browser is the best sandbox available.

VM hypervisors are even better sandboxes. I don't imagine any browser will be more secure than for example a VirtualBox or VMWare VM, unless the browser itself literally is a VM hypervisor.

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Post by _carbyau_ »

NortySpock wrote: post #351
_carbyau_ wrote: post #348

Asking for advice:(to HN of all places but eh...) I know nothing about docker. I have a handful of VMs(Jitsi, pfsense,VPN). Want to be able to set up useful self-hosted services at home without killing my family downtime. My current plan: yunohost https://yunohost.org/ and a RPi4 to see the possibilities. Then if I see a rock solid requirement maybe go for something more specific. (NixOS config seems interesting...)…

I don't think an RPi4 can keep up with Jitsi, but I have never attempted it. I have not tried yunohost, but the interface looks nice. docker is not required, but docker + docker compose, on an RPi4, with auto-restart of failed containers has been very solid for me.

RPi4 and Jitsi may not work, but looking into containers is the main point.

Simply using Docker and Docker-compose on RPi linux may indeed be what I am after to start with. A commandline + YAML file is totally fine! Thanks!

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