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Unless you are dealing with subjects that would actually use calculus, people in their day to day lives would do much better to understand probabilities, statistics and experiment design. Most of our lives are dealing with the results of empirical studies, in business, science and policy and humanity could use a big reminder that life is not a binary black or white, but a huge pot of maybes. Otherwise it just gets ab…
> Unless you are dealing with subjects that would actually use calculus, people in their day to day lives would do much better to understand probabilities, statistics and experiment design. Probability theory is applied analysis. For example a measure density is a derivation of a measure with respect to another measure (Radon–Nikodym derivative). Or how do you often assign probabilities to measurable set: Lebesgue-St…
So you want to study mathematics
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Re: So you want to study mathematics
#352Are there any "math for people who just want to use it" tracks in math pedagogy? I don't care a bit about proving any of it's true, or even reading others proofs of same. "Recognize which tool to apply, then apply tool", all focused on real-world use (so, yes, it wouldn't be "real" mathematics). That's the math education I'd like—try as I might, I just can't make myself care even a little about math for math's sake.…
My strong opinion as someone who majored in math is that, at least within the US, the standard calculus requirement should be replaced with statistics. So much more useful and so much more important as an adult. The analytical type of thinking that proof-writing is certainly useful, but you can make much the same argument of many other curricula, and besides, it's not like most intro calc courses even do any proofs.…
There's nothing a basic Stats 1 course needs calc grounding for (perhaps Riemann sums under a normal curve but that's more for deriving than the concept itself). As it stands now, AP Stats is used for kids that don't want to progress to an AP Calc, but want a math or need to hit a school or county requirement.
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I'm really wary of this. House wiring would be more useful than Shakespeare. That's not to knock house wiring, or statistics. I'd love to know more about both. But don't deny yourself an understanding of the meaning of limits. Almost all mathematics before calculus leaves you with a misimpression that neat formulas exist to solve problems. In reality, you've learned to draw straight lines with a ruler, and maybe a fe…
But Shakespeare is incredibly useless. People don't even talk or write like that anymore. Any imagined benefit of Shakespeare is just fanciful wishful thinking.
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You can certainly make significant headway with some basic combinatorics and basic tables for things like the normal distribution, no calculus needed. This is in fact how most people currently learn statistics.
What happens when you dont have tables? In the land of the blind the guy with one eye walks everyone off a cliff.
IDK, what does R do?
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#355If doing math is essential to conceptual understanding and application, could the interface of math and physics be made more human-centered? For instance, the shift from Roman numerals to Arabic numerals made doing math easier. Based on your experience, might it be possible to increase accessibility by revising some of the arcane conventions of math and physics? See Brett Victor’s 2011 proposal: http://worrydream.com…
I wrote an essay response to this proposal that you might enjoy: https://jeremykun.com/2020/05/17/musings-on-a-new-interface-...
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#356If you actually want to study math, you probably shouldn't touch calculus until you've take linear algebra and a fair amount of topology, since these are the two structures on sets that (differential) calculus is founded upon. For other subjects, you can briefly substitute an intuition for the underlying structures with sufficient finesse in the presentation of the material (see the theory of knots and links, for an…
That’s what the real analysis course is usually for, and why it comes after linear algebra and algebra.
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Except for the course ordering, it lines up almost identically with the math major at my university. I'm not sure what the other posters are going on about. Most of their preferred topics that they feel you missed are either upper division electives or graduate level.
I suspect that people forget that undergraduate programs don’t really cover very much. This true not just for math, but for pretty much every other major. I mean, think about how little of physics you learn if you only take undergraduate courses!
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#358The author doesn't seem to take her own brilliance into account when composing these self-study guides. For the other 99.99% of us, it would take many lifetimes worth of free time to make a substantial dent in these materials. To me, guides like these are too intimidating to even begin. Maybe what's needed is a meta-guide on structuring one's time and developing the necessary focus to be able to do this within one hu…
I will tell you the secret: just jump in. Grab a pen and paper, open up the first book in any of the guides, and start reading. Read for 15 minutes, or 20 minutes, or whatever time you have on your lunch break or before you go to bed or while you’re using the bathroom. Do it again the next day. And the next. And the next. That’s how I did it. There’s no brilliance involved. It’s just jumping in. The more you do, the…
I knew consistency was important, and did not place much importance on "brilliance", although that attribute has been showered upon me since I was little.
What I did not know, and still don't know is that studying only for a few minutes or half an hour regularly will make me good at something as advanced math.
You seem to know your stuff and I like your approach and attitude, and I will do now what I do very rarely and upon serious consideration- take a leap of faith.
I will start doing math everyday for at least half an hour, and I will see how that goes.
I will let you know after a few months.
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I posted recently asking for exactly this... but for medicine. I have a body, everyone I know has a body. The operate pretty much the same everywhere in the world. I would like to know how it works.
I want this too. Let me know if you find anything!!
1. How the Body Works from DK.
2. The Machinery of Life by Goodsell.
Check them out.
DK books are great to get introduced to something new- get a lay of the land, learn introductory jargons, etc.
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> I have no idea what you're talking about, and I even googled the phrase. A linear transformation of some n-tuple (let's call it a) to some m-tuple (let's call it b) can be thought of as the sum of an element-wise multiplication of each item of a by an m-tuple coefficient (let's call the coefficient c_i). So b = ∑ a_i × c_i. The coefficients may or may not be linearly independent. The span ( https://en.wikipedia.org…
You concisely illustrate my point. You misuse words so that others that have learned the material cannot understand what you're writing. Calling an m-tuple a coefficient and then calling the column span the "coefficient span" does not show understanding of the material. >I consider it a more fundamental, more useful concept than your "rank". The dimension of the span is the rank. It's exactly why rank is important. T…
> Calling an m-tuple a coefficient and then calling the column span the "coefficient span" does not show understanding of the material.
So… I'm not wrong; I just don't know the words? Sounds like I actually do understand the mathematical concepts. (Maybe I'd find the words easier if mathematicians named stuff sensibly… and yes, I know I'm using English to write that sentence. I'm a hypocrite, but that's no excuse for the naming conventions in abstract algebra and category theory.)
> No, it is a fundamental property of the linear transformation. Gaussian elimination is but one of many ways to compute it.
So why does every textbook, every lecture, and Wikipedia talk incessantly about Gaussian elimination (an algorithm for inverting matrices!) when talking about rank? Rank's only useful as a property of the vector spaces, so why treat it like a separate concept?
> It is also true that the row span = the column span = the rank, which is also not immediately obvious.
The size of the row / column span is the rank, surely? Unless I'm misunderstanding the terminology.
And that's because we have several different concepts to describe the same property, for no reason that I can see. That relationship was immediately obvious to me as soon as I worked out what “rank” was, because I'd done my own investigations into linear algebra before I ever got taught it. (Investigations that I wouldn't've thought to do had I not known about the concepts of linear functions, multi-variate functions and inverses, so I'm not claiming to have independently invented linear alegbra.) There's no way they could be different, because it's about the linear independence (which regions of n- or m-dimensional space are reachable by a linear combination of the… you don't want me to say “coefficients”).
Likewise, I don't think we should be using “row” and “column” to describe linear mappings. “We sometimes write numbers in a grid to represent the function” isn't fundamental.
> And no one calls that m-tuple a coefficient.
But it is a coefficient, if you write the transformation the way I wrote it. Why is that wronger than talking about the “rows” and “columns” of a function? Other than convention, of course.
> None of this is in the book above. Zero.
To be fair, the book does purport to teach statistics; it uses, but does not claim to teach, basic linear algebra. A solid grasp of linear algebra is a prerequisite to understanding the book, so if you understand the book you probably understand linear algebra.