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Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by chungy »

itronitron wrote: post #239
fuster wrote: post #218

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This one absolutely kills me. Why do my kids need Microsoft accounts for this? Their official instructions ask for DOB and require checking some box about allowing my kids to sign into "third-party applications". Not to mention all the legal crap I'll have to agree to, settings to scrutinize and opt-out of to ensure privacy, etc. I am this close to just telling them that they're going to have to abandon their favorit…

I can't think of anything more off-putting when purchasing a game than having to create another account. I have yet to migrate any of our family's 6+ Mojang accounts to Microsoft and I'm not sure that I will. Migrating to a Microsoft account also coincidentally creates an XBox Live account which is a hassle I don't need. If Minecraft needs to die in order to make way for the next creative, social, non-FPS game then I…

I stopped playing Rocket League for several reasons; discontinuation of a native Linux version, and then forcing you to register an Epic account (which I refused to do).

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by vel0city »

joenathanone wrote: post #343
vel0city wrote: post #217

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> For example, RDP'ing to a Windows Pro computer with a Microsoft account becomes a lot more difficult. I'm of the exact opposite persuasion. RDP'ing into a computer with your Microsoft account is easier , along with file and folder permissions across network shares and other account related things. I used to have to manage an AD domain to have the same set of accounts across all my various Windows machines. Now that…

>RDP'ing into a computer with your Microsoft account is easier Here is where it gets complicated, what you say is true for personal accounts and Hybrid Azure AD accounts, but it becomes super difficult with pure Azure AD accounts.

I haven't used pure Azure AD accounts from a management perspective before, and I've used it for less than a year as a user. However, I've yet to experience any sync issues personally. What kind of issues can crop up, and how?

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Post by secondcoming »

michaelmrose wrote: post #200
larrik wrote: post #17

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The only thing stopping me from using Linux at this point is piss-poor 4k support, combined with the crap market for building your own PC (thanks Bitcoin!) I just couldn't beat the m1 Air for price/performance last year.

Linux actually has excellent 4K support. If you primarily use KDE and QT applications under x11 what you need to do is virtually nothing or set DPI. GTK apps can be adjusted by setting GDK_SCALE=Integer. If you want to tweak text bigger or smaller set your default font size in GTK/KDE settings to be larger or smaller. There is an entire section on handles you can tweak in different environments odds are you need few…

It's 2022. Linux should be past the point of requiring people to hunt for a config file so they can edit it to get a usable display.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by smegger001 »

giobox wrote: post #74
randomhodler84 wrote: post #2

Literally a trap to hand over your encryption keys. Never sign into an operating system with a cloud identity. You should have stopped using windows years ago. There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work.

> There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work. While Proton is great, it helps no one to suggest it's a solution to making all games work. There are absolutely enormous multiplayer titles still unavailable on Proton, if you can't play the games your friends play who cares if 99% of the rest of the Steam library works? Again, I think Proton is great…

As i mostly play single player titles me. Have been using linux as my daily driver since 2010, I play game that work on my system if they have a multiplayer and my friends are interested fine I might multiplayer with them otherwise i am fine on my own. I wont support bulshit and put up with MS on my machine just for a game, there are plenty of other things entertain me.

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Post by Terry_Roll »

nightski wrote: post #251
antsar wrote: post #111

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Logging in with a MS account automatically uploads your documents to their cloud? Cool…

No, it doesn't. I have no idea what the parent is talking about. It sounds like roaming profiles with an AD domain, nothing to do with an MS account.

I'm talking about both.

AD with roaming profiles was a nightmare if for some reasons the workstation couldnt connect to the server when they logged on, somehow users managed to create multiple roaming profiles which jammed up the network when their massive ms exchange/outlook files 5Gb+ size early 00's downloaded for "offline" working.

And with the windows 10 accounts where its nigh on impossible to get onedrive to stop copying your files. If when setting a new computer, you dont create a ms account when you configure your first user, its easier to get rid of onedrive, but if you have or create a ms account which is used to add a user when setting up a new computer to log into windows, then onedrive just keeps coming back like a virus. Absolute pain in the backside.

I'm at the stage of looking at Linux now but not ubuntu because even ubuntu phones home with meta data and that had been reported some years ago in the press, there just isnt any privacy from these devices anymore. I dont even own a mobile phone now its got that bad with being tracked. I've gone from early adopter to last person on the adoption curve line.

These people dont understand privacy and the security services/law enforcement are loving all this surveillance, they have never had it so easy before, being able to place virtually every individual in a country at the push of a button.

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Post by secondcoming »

brimble wrote: post #101
nemacol wrote: post #52

Can you use Apple products without an account? If not*, what version of Linux should I get setup with. Casual web development. I mostly use my personal machine for gaming. Edit - Typo

Put Linux in a VM on your (windows?) gaming machine. It'll be much smoother than trying to run on real hardware, and if you're not gaming on it Linux anyway then you probably don't need direct hardware access (not for web dev, certainly). Use VirtualBox or whatever Windows calls their hypervisor they ship with Windows these days. If you hate it you can just delete the disk image and it's gone.

Hyper-V

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Post by scarygliders »

legrande wrote: post #27

Windows 7/8 are the last good versions of Windows IMHO. Yeah they have security issues, but I run them in a virtual machine not connected to the Internet where I need things like iTunes and MS Office. Some games don't run in a VM very well because of the overhead and abstraction (unless they're lightweight or not resource intensive). I have a separate Alienware laptop for gaming on Windows however. My hypervisor OS i…

For gaming? Ditch virtualbox and migrate your VMs to libvirt/KVM/qemu.

On my main PC I have an RTX2070 Super and a GTX 1070.

I pass the RTX2070 Super through to a libvirt Windows VM and via Scream & looking-glass I can play any and all Windows games at full speed. Elite: Dangerous, No Mans Sky, and so on, run at full speed inside this VM.

An alternative is to run a lot of games via WINE and/or Proton-via-Steam for Linux, which also works fine.

Turns out Windows is basically a gaming OS these days for me - the rest of the work I do gets done on Linux.

And lastly I think I'll be stopping at Windows 10. Running nice and snug in a VM.

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Post by ValentineC »

aerovistae wrote: post #91

I hate it, not because it requires an account, but because Microsoft is nightmarishly bad at account management and has been since I was a little kid in the 90s. They somehow make it possible to have multiple different unsynced accounts across different services, so you constantly forget which is which, and resetting or gaining access is always an incredible hassle. I find myself having to reset my password literally…

My Skype accounts all have Microsoft accounts of their own.

I guess it's a good thing Skype isn't the mainstay it used to be.

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Post by chj »

Melatonic wrote: post #316
jenscow wrote: post #270

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> I use multiple non-admin profiles for different activities Well, shit me. I've not used Windows since 8 came out. However, I would have loved to have had that workflow for a multiple desktop type thing. Why didn't I think of that 20 years ago? (for a long time, windows has internally supported multiple desktops, but it's not quite the same)

Highly recommended way to use any flavor of windows going back to way back when - give your admin account a long fancy password and then just rarely logon as that account. Your daily driver is an account with normal priviliges. Also good for Grandma so she can't install a bunch of spyware

Good until your Grandma calls you because some software require the admin password.

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Post by cutler »

Still up to their old tricks. So much for the caring, sharing, Linux-friendly, open-source M$. I remember the Microsoft of the 90s and they haven't changed much in 30 years if you dig below the hype. Anyone remember SCO and Suse being sued by M$ for undisclosed patents? Why would anyone who has ever experienced being locked out their Hotmail/Outlook/Live account ever trust M$ with anything related to security, logins or personal data?
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