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Re: Steam has been banned in China

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"Steam has been banned in China" reads differently than the article's original title: "Steam Has Reportedly Been Banned In China".

FFS, get it right the first time. Initial impressions went from:

* "Oh really? Not likely but okay..", clicks thread

* Fast-reads comments top to bottom "fuck, what is this.."

* Reads actual article, "God damnit."

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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This is weird. Definitely not my experience at all. I visited Shanghai, Beijing, and Chengdu in China in 2012 and I felt extremely welcome wherever I went. I might also add that in Chengdu, a city which sees considerably less foreigners than the other two, I felt like I was being treated like somewhat of a celebrity, with people smiling at me everywhere, and random passer-bys on the street trying to impress me with t…

2012 is a very long time ago by Chinese standards. Xi only became the general secretary in November of that year and the president in 2013. Most of his authoritarian and nationalist policies have only really kicked into a higher gear from 2018. The xenophobia got even worse after the coronavirus hit, and I can't imagine it has improved much since I left in 2020. Also, I don't know what makes you think that Chengdu is…

Thank you. I had the same experience as GP in 2010 except I absolutely hated it. Can you imagine if people in the US treated Chinese tourists like that?

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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post #288

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This is weird. Definitely not my experience at all. I visited Shanghai, Beijing, and Chengdu in China in 2012 and I felt extremely welcome wherever I went. I might also add that in Chengdu, a city which sees considerably less foreigners than the other two, I felt like I was being treated like somewhat of a celebrity, with people smiling at me everywhere, and random passer-bys on the street trying to impress me with t…

2012 is a very long time ago by Chinese standards. Xi only became the general secretary in November of that year and the president in 2013. Most of his authoritarian and nationalist policies have only really kicked into a higher gear from 2018. The xenophobia got even worse after the coronavirus hit, and I can't imagine it has improved much since I left in 2020. Also, I don't know what makes you think that Chengdu is…

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Re: Steam has been banned in China

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I'm personally opposed to the idea of visiting certain countries, such as China and North Korea, to 'see for yourself', especially when you don't know the language, when you're not willing to risk your life to understand and uncover the parts the government doesn't want you to see, like VICE did in Xinjiang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ That being said, if you go then please try to walk into a random h…

Hey what sort of bullshit is this HN? I was reading a reply by a guy who counter-commented on this, a bunch of links of people on YouTube walking around this same area and not seeing anything like this. Then went to comment, and it says "flagged" and was deleted, in under 10 minutes. I don't really care about politics or China at all, but that is some spooky-tier censorship here on HN. Wtf is going on here? Here's on…

If that link is the best representation of the lot, then yeah, they deserved to be deleted. Walking around a neighborhood with a high density of a given ethnicity, showing them managing to enjoy the life they have does nothing to discredit the idea that the same ethnicity is oppressed and heavily targeted.

Or to put it another way with a much more mild example, you can make a video full of happy black folks in some of the most backwards racist oppressive parts of the US. The existence of happy people does not negate the oppression they continue to endure.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Hey what sort of bullshit is this HN? I was reading a reply by a guy who counter-commented on this, a bunch of links of people on YouTube walking around this same area and not seeing anything like this. Then went to comment, and it says "flagged" and was deleted, in under 10 minutes. I don't really care about politics or China at all, but that is some spooky-tier censorship here on HN. Wtf is going on here? Here's on…

I encourage you to apply occam's razor here. I don’t think any political entity has any interest in controlling what individuals post on a tiny website like HN.

Here is the post that has vanished:

https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=29684814

  > I don’t think any political entity has any interest in controlling what individuals post on a tiny website like HN.
I wish I could pull a cached view of the comment up (I tried), there wasn't anything I would interpret as being inflammatory in there.

The comment boiled down to:

  "VICE isn't what I'd call the most reputable/unbiased source. I'd encourage everyone to do their own research/make their own decision. Here are a bunch of links of people walking around the same area, and it looks nothing like what is cut together from that VICE episode."
The speed at which it was flagged and removed was shocking. Like I said, (maybe I am a bad person for this), I don't really care that much about China or politics in general. There are a lot of other things I'd rather spend my energy caring about, that directly impact me.

I just wanted to call out this very odd behavior. I don't see HN as a place where people who speak objectively + respectfully get silenced, generally.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Sorry, I trust BBC more than I trust you about what is not allowed in China's heavy controlled internet. https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855

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Re: Steam has been banned in China

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"we've always been at war with eastasia" The major problem I see, is that every major power uses propaganda to their benefit, yet even highly intelligent people often don't see the propaganda of their native (or chosen) home. I see the propaganda of China, Russia as well as the one of the US and Europe. There are no white, selfless knights around. There never were. Does that mean that nothing matters, that (subjectiv…

> I see the propaganda of China, Russia as well as the one of the US and Europe. This is a huge false equivalence. You won't see Chinese citizens publicly in favor of US/Europe but you will damn well see it the other way around. E.g., some of my coworkers genuinely think it is ok for China to ban Western companies in the name of harmony but the US introducing the slightest of regulations is seen as fascism. A discuss…

I though US maintains list of black listed companies

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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On a lower frequency, this similar to why I'm not interested in tourism as "self-discovery", "new experience", or some shit, like the rest of the world is just stage and props for my existential theatre. I'm not gonna change as a human unless I actually move there to live permanently. Even worse, the middle-class trend to make the number of distinct places you've visited some form of social currency ("how many stamps…

Are you saying Africans and (black, which I assume you mean but I’m trying to be charitable) people in your city are basically the same? I imagine the lives and cultures in Africa are vastly different than whatever city you’re in.

If the only way for you to deal with Black skin charitably be that they be some exotic Other "over there", that're 'different', who 'actually have it bad', and that you don't need to ever run into again, then you're part of a problem and don't know why.

Africa won't want for charitable aid labor in spite of this sentiment, it just can field those grunt work jobs from people who're, you know, from the area itself rather than Western tourists looking for a story to tell or a CV to pad.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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> The move comes as a surprise How dense and gullible do you have to be? Do people keep forgetting they’re dealing with an authoritarian dictatorship? ANYTHING is on the table, nothing should come as a surprise. Divest from China and diversify manufacturing sources, otherwise we will wake up one day imprisoned, and „the move will come as a surprise“

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