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Docker blocking Xbox chat is not a platform issue but a docker issue and OP doesn’t even want to take time to file a proper bug report so yes kids would be better off using a pc or their own. Same would go for any console, phone etc. You can’t just install stuff with known issues from 3rd parties, not file report with any diagnostics and then blame it on the platform. Would you blame iOS for a badly behaving app that…

If I am understanding correctly, it is an Xbox issue because game systems do not like virtualization / emulation / containerization functionality because of its potential for enabling cheats. Many test proctoring systems are the same way-- the presence of a virtualization service, driver, or hypervisor will trigger a red flag. So again, for the huge number of people whose life involves technology there are a lot of t…

No the issue here is Docker creating an improperly configured network interface.

xbox apps on Windows do not care about virtualization, in fact they probably can't - because xbox os is essentially a subset of windows as host and guest.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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> So it's not just file a bug report, it's file a bug report and provide follow up information. As a programmer, that's fine, but what if my kids want to play minecraft with their friends? I’d say your kids pc doesn’t need docker on it. You can’t eat the cake and have it too. If you’re technically skilled to be using containers and virtualization, least you could do is file a helpful bug report.

>I’d say your kids pc doesn’t need docker on it. I have nephews who are tinkering with Java and python, and I assume will be hitting docker at some point. You're being incredibly nitpicky over a reasonable example of why PC is not as plug-and-play as a console. On a console, the game will work. On a PC, there are a lot of factors that may prevent it from working. The entire "use a PC" premise is that the PC can be us…

> Docker is not the only example, tools like fiddler or wireshark or ghidra could cause problems. But heaven forbid that a gamer on hackernews be a tech enthusiast, right?

No, heaven forbid they want to tinker then complain but don't want to spend 5 minutes to file a bug report or follow the hacker way of actually figuring the issue out and proposing a fix.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Would you like a brand new RTX 3090 at MSRP? Ill sell you one right now $1,499 no questions asked. Oh by the way, it comes bundled with 3 PS3 Madden games and a banana, $4500 in total.

If those Madden games and a banana are worth $3000 then of course, yes, but your comparison makes zero sense because those items aren't worth that much, neither in retail nor in resale. For some crazy reason you are assigning value of zero to the controller and those two bundled games, which is just simply and logically not true - at MSRP, at retail prices, the value of all items adds up to the price being asked. Aga…

My guess is that they're confusing the MSRP in their country (probably United States, apparently $499) with the MSRP in Poland (apparently about US $832).

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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If those Madden games and a banana are worth $3000 then of course, yes, but your comparison makes zero sense because those items aren't worth that much, neither in retail nor in resale. For some crazy reason you are assigning value of zero to the controller and those two bundled games, which is just simply and logically not true - at MSRP, at retail prices, the value of all items adds up to the price being asked. Aga…

My guess is that they're confusing the MSRP in their country (probably United States, apparently $499) with the MSRP in Poland (apparently about US $832).

https://newsbeezer.com/polandeng/we-know-the-polish-playstat...

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Another pretty big advantage of a console platform which isn't jailbroken (yet?) is far less cheating. Sure, you still got all your in-game exploits (some games don't have many, other games are riddled with game-breaking exploits), but you have to invest in a hardware cheat to get an aimbot or whatever on a console (one might argue that, depending on the game, you already get an aimbot out of the box anyway). Cheatin…

Not just cheating, but it prevents players from having an advantage from having a better/more expensive setup - I personally love having standardized hardware in competitive online gaming.

There is still the difference between having a gamepad or keyboard connected.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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You can actually, with Playstation Now or whatever Sony's streaming service is called.

That service does not get said exclusives until many years later, if ever.

And I usually want to play them on the release date!

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

Gaming on PC generally means Windows, many of us don't want it on our computers, which would mean "getting a PC" would not result in a computer that you'd want to use for other things.

> Gaming on PC generally means Windows

Whatnow. There are more games that run on Linux than anyone will have the time to play. Then there is also Proton. A lot has changed since 2010.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

You have to use Windows or deal with weird compatibility hacks? I’m really looking forward to the Steam deck. It may not have the power of current-gen consoles, but it takes so many good things about current consoles and combines them together. Openness of a PC, not Windows, portable + docking, etc.

> You have to use Windows or deal with weird compatibility hacks?

> I’m really looking forward to the Steam deck.

Uhm, the Steam deck is literally running Linux and using the same compatibility "hacks" for non-native games. Which are not hard to "deal with" these days btw - Steam handles all that for you with Proton, you just press play.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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post #351

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If I am understanding correctly, it is an Xbox issue because game systems do not like virtualization / emulation / containerization functionality because of its potential for enabling cheats. Many test proctoring systems are the same way-- the presence of a virtualization service, driver, or hypervisor will trigger a red flag. So again, for the huge number of people whose life involves technology there are a lot of t…

No the issue here is Docker creating an improperly configured network interface. xbox apps on Windows do not care about virtualization, in fact they probably can't - because xbox os is essentially a subset of windows as host and guest.

If you are saying that a Windows application cannot tell if virtualization is in use, you are incorrect. It can both tell whether you are in a virtualized instance (e.g. if you have Hyper-V on) and if you are running a hypervisor. In the former case, a simple hardware inspection would suffice, and there are a dozen other methods to tell such as used by virt-what.

None of this is relevant. Maybe Docker's interface is "improperly configured" for the gaming use case. It remains a headache, and using a console is a viable solution that allows you to work with buggy instances of Docker without disrupting your gaming.

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