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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by Jtsummers »

kemayo wrote: post #343
Jtsummers wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you desire privacy, never upload your images to any cloud service that doesn't offer true end-to-end encryption of the data (that is, one where they do not have the key). Use a service where data is only decryptable on your own devices or devices that you personally authorize. Which is, presently, none of the popular services that I'm aware of.

It's even probably the right choice for a popular service to have made. Full E2E encryption is going to trigger nightmare "I lost all my photos" customer-service stories when people forget their passwords... which is acceptable when you deliberately signed up for a service where security was the selling point, but not great for someone who bought a mass-market phone.

Yep. See the perennial complaint about Signal as a demonstration of that. They don't persist your messages across devices on privacy/security grounds. That's fine, it's why I use it (or one motivation for me to use it). But it's contrary to what many people expect from that kind of service.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by 28921247 »

1_player wrote: post #329
28921247 wrote: post #233

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Not really. Google wants black people to buy their phones because a featured they developed works better for their skin tone. Should companies who make smaller handsets be barred from advertising to women?

Do you think black people striving for equality are looking for companies putting black people on their ads? They want equality, not their struggle to be washed away by bullshit empty posturing. "Want to end racism? Stop talking about it. I'll stop calling you a white man if you stop calling me a black man." - Morgan Freeman

> Do you think black people striving for equality are looking for companies putting black people on their ads?

Absolutely. How else would a person with attributes typically ignored know that a product was designed for them? Ethnic hair care products is another example. Do you think only white people should be in ads for hair care products for African Americans?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by onion2k »

eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

This is the price we pay for our history. You might think it's unfair, and you might think equal numbers would be better, but given how shit the entire marketing industry has been to non-whites for decades maybe it's not completely unreasonable to swing to the other extreme for a while.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by NotPractical »

DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

> I will continue to recommend those phones for most people (pending what they’re going to do with trying to incriminate you), but it’s not for me.

Why? Despite what Apple would have you believe, Pixel phones aren't "more complicated" than iPhones. They're just a little different. For example, I recently had to use an iPhone and the interface was difficult to use, coming from Android. Not because it was inherently confusing, but because I simply wasn't used to it. But I'm sure it would have only taken a few days to adjust.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by rcatcher »

onion2k wrote: post #354
eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

This is the price we pay for our history. You might think it's unfair, and you might think equal numbers would be better, but given how shit the entire marketing industry has been to non-whites for decades maybe it's not completely unreasonable to swing to the other extreme for a while.

Why do some "white" immigrants who came to the US recently have to pay for something people in the US hundred years ago did?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by Griffinsauce »

robocat wrote: post #239

Link for anyone not in the US: https://store.google.com/us/category/phones?hl=en-US&regionR... Otherwise you see your local country store... Dang: perhaps replace link so international users get the same page?

Thank you!

I've never understood why they don't sell them in the Netherlands. The way they just pretend it doesn't exist in the store by redirecting you is extra annoying.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by quotemstr »

eikenberry wrote: post #327
quotemstr wrote: post #142

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Each major release of Android has an explicitly stable kernel internal ABI, meaning that shipping binary drivers is much more viable than it was before.

Doesn't matter how easy it is if it is still illegal to do so.

Is anybody actually getting in trouble for shipping binary kernel modules?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by coryfklein »

lucasgonze wrote: post #168
eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

You're precisely missing the point. There is a new feature to better capture non-white skin tones. Those photos are to illustrate a product benefit. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RealTone&src=typed_query&f=t...

> to better capture non-white skin tones

The copy on the page itself seems to disagree with you

> Portraits on Pixel represent the nuances of different skin tones for *all people* beautifully and authentically.

(Emphasis mine)

There does seem to be a discrepancy between the copy saying "all people" and the photos above that paragraph only including individuals with darker skin.

Edit: I'm acknowledging that there are photos of white males elsewhere on the page, but I think my comment's parent is specifically talking about that one section?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by wvenable »

DCKing wrote: post #349
wvenable wrote: post #278

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> Where I think Samsung falls short is execution. Samsung is fundamentally a hardware company and their software has always been mediocre in my view, even to this day. I disagree. I really like Samsung's take on Android and appreciate features like Dex. With some first-party software from the company, they also make Android extremely customizable. The long tail of Android features that exist only on Samsung devices w…

> The long tail of Android features that exist only on Samsung devices would probably surprise you. We have different tastes in phones, which is okay. I wouldn't really normally respond to this, but I think this quote highlights _why_ our tastes differ. "Having more features" is not a selling point to me, it's probably the opposite. I want a simple OS with a strong set of core features, with a small selection of apps…

We might not have different tastes just different ways of achieving them. My phone is setup to be very minimalist and Samsung has a lot of features to make that possible.

One small example, I've removed all the Android indicator icons on top of the screen that are always on/same for me (alarm, network, volume state, battery, NFC, Bluetooth, etc).

Admittedly I love features but I don't feel like having more features necessarily interferes with minimalism of day to day use. I've used certain features only once or twice but I was glad they were there at time.

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