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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by prewett »

playpause wrote: post #192
have_faith wrote: post #28

Can't believe they did so many positive changes with the MBP only to add the notch from the phone in too. Almost the perfect update. Does this mean every app in full screen has to be updated to account for it? > posted in wrong thread so copying here

Maybe I've drunk the Apple Kool-Aid, but there's another way to look at this: it's a perfectly rectangular 16:10 display, plus they've added an extra (albeit imperfect) strip along the top, 74 pixels high, allowing them to push the macOS menu bar into the bezel, leaving you with a clean and unencumbered 16:10 desktop area for your content.

That makes me happier, but it's a deep gash into an otherwise perfect rectangle. It's a little like the buying a brand new table (or car) and the first thing you do is accidentally put deep gouge in it. Perfectly serviceable? Yes. But still needlessly marred for the life of the product.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by flareback »

msie wrote: post #189
rowanG077 wrote: post #123

This is everything I wanted. But the notch... I can't really accept that.

They increased display area with that notch and it only covers the menu bar.

I agree that in normal use it's only covering the menu bar and probably won't be much of a deal. What happens if an app has a lot of menu options? What will that do to the bar?

What about gaming? is this something the developers will have to work around or will the game only be below the notch?

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Post by reaperducer »

chrisBob wrote: post #235

I have been waiting on this announcement to buy a new Mac, but now that they are out, I don't think I will buy one. The prices are 2x a Macbook Air, but the utility for me doesn't match. If the 14" was closer to the previous 13" MBP price of $1500 I would be ordering one now, but I will be getting a Macbook Air instead. Note to Veterans: Apple gives a 10% Veterans discount on everything, including the refurbished sto…

Different priorities for different people.

13" and 14" are unusable for me. They're just too small.

I used to love that form factor when I was running through airports in a different country each month, which is why I'm typing this on an 11" Air. But in today's world, a bigger screen is more important.

This one has 16.2 inches, which is almost as big as the old 17-inch Mac laptops, so I've ordered one.

If I ever get back to traveling a lot, it'll be the 16" at the hotel, and then just take an iPad to the client. No need to drag a whole computer with me anymore.

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Post by schaefer »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #149

I've got to say these M1 chips are very tempting. I've been a Linux guy for a long time now and these make me contemplate the switch. I really wish apple had a real competitor in the laptop space, but honestly no one seems to come close to apple's hardware quality. I'm really hoping to see some M1 style chips for non-apple hardware in the near future.

intel 12th gen, alder lake, does mix high efficiency and performance cores, like the M1 series... but it's certainly not a total in-die solution like we see with the M1.

And also, the wait time for alder lake to ship in actual laptops is unknown.

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Post by systemvoltage »

dreamer7 wrote: post #141

I don't really like the chassis design. It looks dated. But the rest of the Macbook Pro sounds really exciting! For those who missed the keynote, here are some laugh-inducing moments - "Our Pro users love to use physical function keys. So we have added them" "Our Pro users like to connect a lot of devices without using a lot of dongles"

I suggest thinking about design as not belonging to a 'date' or an era, but whether it solves a given problem.

We've grown up in the era of designers that make us think that design is aesthetic and like fashion, it evolves. I think of it like an engineer - its job is to solve a problem.

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Post by icoder »

cletus wrote: post #201

And so ends the last of the Dark Days of Johnny Ive. Don't get me wrong: he innovated a lot. My theory is when Jobs died, he lost his counterbalance and his designs suddenly became without compromise (no that isn't a good thing). It's when we saw the 12" Macbook as the crusade for thinness at all costs (terrible performance, only one port, a terrible version of the macbook Air), the end of the Macbook Air (before get…

I've been extending the life of my MacBook Pro 2012 (13") all throughout those Dark Days (with 8GB RAM from the start an SSD added later). As a software dev using it day in day out. It's really at its end now, runs only on AC and the only reason I can still run (yet not debug) the apps I build is with a bit of a hack.

I skipped the crappy keyboard, and loud, hot running versions. The M1 was a bit new and low on mem for me (wrt the future), but I just ordered the M1 Pro 32GB.

Only hesitation I had concerns ARM support. It sure is getting better and better, but if they would have added one more superb Intel model right before introducing the M1's I'd have gone for that. But that might have hampered M1 adoption so I can see why they didn't.

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