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Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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Post by rock_artist »

iso1210 wrote: post #343
rock_artist wrote: post #289

Looking at some comments, I was surprised seeing many complaints about Samsung ads but (as of writing) no one mentions Google doing same thing lately: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27643208

Google are an advertising company, it would be like complaining about McDonalds selling fast food. Samsung are an electronics company

So should Android start showing ads on your lock screen is that acceptable practice?

Or is it acceptable only for Pixel as it’s McDonald’s and evil if it’s a Samsung Galaxy?

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Post by francisofascii »

tyingq wrote: post #298
arduinomancer wrote: post #287

This thread feels very...Hacker News Bubble? Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Being able to just turn on your TV and open Netflix without messing around with inputs/other devices is a huge benefit for non-technological people. And it probably costs <$50 for the manufacturer to include whatever chip is running linux in the TV, its a no-brainer.

My non-tech extended family members all use separate Roku and/or FireTV devices instead of the built-in TV functionality, because I've seen the devices. I don't know why, but they do.

Maybe because the Roku interface actually works properly, whereas the apps on the smart TV are slow and buggy.

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Post by Clampower »

hellbannedguy wrote: post #283
nicolas_t wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotal but I've had very good experience with Samsung front loading washing machine, might depend on regions of the world though, I've had one in Asia and one in Europe.

Try to stay away from pricy Bosh washers, and dishwashers. I can offer this with a Bosh. If you get a E13 error it's the pump. It's a pretty easy fix. You can get a generic pump for $50. Most disguarded Bosh washers are due to a pump. The computer is second on the list. It's not worth fixing if it's the board. I've been meaning to put a fan on my washer's computer board. There us definitely room in there for a comput…

It’s Bosch fyi

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Post by pmontra »

echlebek wrote: post #337
dawnerd wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can but they're really expensive and not designed for regular home users.

Gigabyte have a 48" 'monitor' now (an LG panel with Displayport 1.4 and no smart features)

Yes, but TVs and monitors have different purposes and it shows. A quick summary at https://thewiredshopper.com/tv-vs-monitor/

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Post by iso1210 »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #342
karteum wrote: post #122

No-one forces you to connect your "smart" TV to the network... You can just use it as a "dumb" TV and connect anything on it (such as a Raspberry Pi) to do the "smart" things. I have an old Toshiba smart TV from >7 years ago that I bought second-hand for 100€, and while it is doing great as a dumb TV I would never connect it to the network considering there have been no firmware update for years and that the current…

Are you sure? https://thehometheaterdiy.com/hdmi-with-ethernet/

As you control your pi, you can control ethernet over hdmi

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Post by Forbo »

jychang wrote: post #348
olyjohn wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think so. I think regardless of how good they are... a lot of people don't want to sell their viewing habits in exchange for using an app that you have to pay for to watch shows.

I mean, most people just use Netflix and Hulu and Plex from their smart TV anyways. The former 2 are already collecting your viewing habits, and the latter is uncollectable since it's just streaming from your own server.

> the latter is uncollectable since it's just streaming from your own server.

Except smart TVs take screenshots of what you are watching and send it back for content analysis and correlation. So even if all you're doing is using it as a dumb monitor they are still collecting data about you.

Edit: Before someone calls me a tinfoil hat, it's called automatic content recognition, look it up.

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Post by beervirus »

nsxwolf wrote: post #311
arduinomancer wrote: post #287

This thread feels very...Hacker News Bubble? Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Being able to just turn on your TV and open Netflix without messing around with inputs/other devices is a huge benefit for non-technological people. And it probably costs <$50 for the manufacturer to include whatever chip is running linux in the TV, its a no-brainer.

The software in the newer LG OLEDs is so good I haven't bothered hooking up any of my boxes to my new TVs. I'm sure in a few years the UI will start to feel sluggish and it will be time to plug something in, but for now its a great experience, far better than any smart TV I've used before.

I bought one for my grandmother after reading lots of comments like this. She found it baffling, and we went back to Apple TV. Honestly, I found the interface a little confusing myself.

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Post by RKearney »

arduinomancer wrote: post #287

This thread feels very...Hacker News Bubble? Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Being able to just turn on your TV and open Netflix without messing around with inputs/other devices is a huge benefit for non-technological people. And it probably costs <$50 for the manufacturer to include whatever chip is running linux in the TV, its a no-brainer.

> Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular?

Because almost all of them use internet connectivity to show you ads on home screens.

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Post by glitcher »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #336
arduinomancer wrote: post #287

This thread feels very...Hacker News Bubble? Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Being able to just turn on your TV and open Netflix without messing around with inputs/other devices is a huge benefit for non-technological people. And it probably costs <$50 for the manufacturer to include whatever chip is running linux in the TV, its a no-brainer.

> This thread feels very...Hacker News Bubble? Smart TVs is one of those recurring HN topics where it’s clear that people made up their minds years ago, likely from a single bad experience. Now they can’t imagine that any progress has been made since then. There’s not much reason to buy a new TV these days if your old one still works (with an external TV box) You can still find terrible smart TVs out there, of course…

I think you may be oversimplifying the concerns some have about smart tv's. There is quite a broad range of opinions between different HN commenters, and lumping us all into one group isn't very conducive to discussion.

For me personally, I have basic privacy concerns with how smart tv companies are selling my viewing habits without any transparency. This issue has nothing to do with the "quality" of the tv and its features, and much more to do with the policies of the companies behind the products.

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