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A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Don't buy this guy's klein bottles, they're a scam - they're only THREE dimensional! Such a rip off. How am I supposed to store a ŷ̶̺̎͌͐̿̽̊́̕ŏ̶̗̈́̓̍̎̃͠g̶̝̺̜̜͋̿̚ͅ-̷̧̛̈́̔́s̷̰̀͌́̈́ơ̷̝̭̫͛́͘ẗ̴̹̱̖̥́h̸̡̡͙̻̀o̸̹̘̾̀͗̇̕t̵̗̠̄̽̈́͑ḧ̵̳̰̩̲͈̜͉̝́́͌͐ in this thing?

how did you do that?

Something like http://www.eeemo.net/

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

#352
I went to Amazon.com, searched for a Acme Klien Bottle and got a "Cradle and Dew" brand bottle "collab with Mr Cliff Stoll."

Not a "blackhead" remover. I'm confused. Is that not Cliff's bottle?

EDIT: Apparently it has been fixed. Still, WTF, Amazon?

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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post #346

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Plot twist: the root cause is greed

The root cause is oxygen. Anyone expecting any other behavior from utility maximizing entities is naive?

I would counter that by saying anyone ascribing that mindset automatically to all humans is cynical ;-)

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

#354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't buy this guy's klein bottles, they're a scam - they're only THREE dimensional! Such a rip off. How am I supposed to store a ŷ̶̺̎͌͐̿̽̊́̕ŏ̶̗̈́̓̍̎̃͠g̶̝̺̜̜͋̿̚ͅ-̷̧̛̈́̔́s̷̰̀͌́̈́ơ̷̝̭̫͛́͘ẗ̴̹̱̖̥́h̸̡̡͙̻̀o̸̹̘̾̀͗̇̕t̵̗̠̄̽̈́͑ḧ̵̳̰̩̲͈̜͉̝́́͌͐ in this thing?

No it's your space that's 3-dimensional. Just make sure to store your klein bottles in 4d space and they will be free of holes and self intersections.

PEBCAK (Problem Exists Between Chair And Klein bottle)

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Guess I'd better say a few things. First, I deeply appreciate that so many on Hacker News have come out for this. Enough to awaken me from a sound sleep on a Tuesday evening! I don't really care that much about selling Klein bottles over Amazon - it's mainly to reach parents over the holidays. But I do wish that Amazon would do something about this kind of thing. Finally, I"m very low on stocks of glass Klein bottles…

You signed a copy of The Cuckoo's Egg for me, oh, maybe 30 years ago, which I still own. I just wanted to say thank you for being a positive inspiration in my life.

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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Given how this is on page-1 of HN, jeff@amazon (the elite US-based seller support team who uses the email, not Bezos) is gonna tear this AMVOOM / TaroRee hijacker a new one. While this is kinda designed-as-intended (Amazon wants you to brand register with them for protection), this is a pretty shitty dark pattern they put up and sadly it happens as an annoying edge case that existing sellers and customers have to dea…

Sigh. A trademark for a common item (like a T-shirt or a voltmeter) seems to cost about $350 through the USPTO, if you do it yourself and your goods are listed in their directory. If your goods are oddball (like glass or woolen nonorientable manifolds) then you have to use a more expensive system which starts at $450 and escalates depending on how many different types of goods you're trademarking.

I'm sorry Cliff: the system sucks because there's a lot of edge case handling when they're dealing with millions of vendors selling literal hundreds of millions of SKUs.

Many of them autogenerated programmatically like "I love X" shirts, and X = some dictionary list; or bots built to crosslist Target/Walmart product over to Amazon etc. for arbitrage etc.

I hope someone from Amazon has reached out to you Cliff - my wife gifted my FIL one of your klein bottles and it's been an absolute delight going through the purchasing experience with you. Thank you for the joy you bring to us!

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

#357

I went to Amazon.com, searched for a Acme Klien Bottle and got a "Cradle and Dew" brand bottle "collab with Mr Cliff Stoll." Not a "blackhead" remover. I'm confused. Is that not Cliff's bottle? EDIT: Apparently it has been fixed. Still, WTF, Amazon?

You can see the old link on Google still https://www.google.com/search?q=Klein+Bottle+amazon

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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post #153

Guess I'd better say a few things. First, I deeply appreciate that so many on Hacker News have come out for this. Enough to awaken me from a sound sleep on a Tuesday evening! I don't really care that much about selling Klein bottles over Amazon - it's mainly to reach parents over the holidays. But I do wish that Amazon would do something about this kind of thing. Finally, I"m very low on stocks of glass Klein bottles…

Hey Cliff, I just have to say thanks. I read the Cuckoo's Egg in the early 90s and while I was already interested in computers, the idea that there were "networks" of them out there... well... it blew my mind. I immediately went to my school librarian and said I wanted to try to connect computers together, or try to dial-up to library information services, etc. We started learning together. You were a huge inspiratio…

a fantastic and inspirational read. also great cookie recipe! made them many times

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

#359

This, and other instances of this scam make me not want to buy anything off Amazon ever again. Where is Amazon in this? Why is this even a thing ? Is there no oversight at all? Amazon has now become the Alibaba of the west and it makes me sick to think the once beloved marketplace is now just scamville. I typically buy from sellers websites now and rarely buy off of Amazon but now I feel I need to completely remove A…

Both Amazon and Aliexpress/baba follow a "this is a city" mentality. Crime and such are understood as statistics, not as a thing happening under their roof. This is a "beef up police funding next cycle" kind of problem.

Any one scam might be defeatable, but "scamming exists" seems to be true in any marketplace with enough participants.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

#360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't buy this guy's klein bottles, they're a scam - they're only THREE dimensional! Such a rip off. How am I supposed to store a ŷ̶̺̎͌͐̿̽̊́̕ŏ̶̗̈́̓̍̎̃͠g̶̝̺̜̜͋̿̚ͅ-̷̧̛̈́̔́s̷̰̀͌́̈́ơ̷̝̭̫͛́͘ẗ̴̹̱̖̥́h̸̡̡͙̻̀o̸̹̘̾̀͗̇̕t̵̗̠̄̽̈́͑ḧ̵̳̰̩̲͈̜͉̝́́͌͐ in this thing?

No it's your space that's 3-dimensional. Just make sure to store your klein bottles in 4d space and they will be free of holes and self intersections.

This is what comes of neglecting the storage instructions.
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