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Life after an internet mob attack

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Re: Life after an internet mob attack

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Post by 3grdlurker »

WDCDev wrote: post #57
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #29

From the linked Notion "Receipts" page: > I've struggled to understand why so many people have piled on to these absurd accusations without facts. I watched a similar situation play out in real time. A friend had to fire an employee who wasn't submitting work or even responding to communications. The employe retaliated by using their moderately large social media presence to disparage my friend and her company. Stran…

> I was stunned at how someone with zero evidence and an obvious axe to grind could rally such disdain for someone else with little more than a few unsubstantiated social media posts. I feel that this is due to the weird place victimization occupies in our culture combined with how anti-social social media is. It's extremely easy to issue accusations and threats and have them be read by literally millions of people.…

> You would never dare vocalize these same threats and and accusations publically - and even if you did, in the pre-internet days, it would reach far far fewer people.

It would reach far less people, yes, but we used to burn witches, too, so it seems that internet mobs are just a modern manifestation of that.

Re: Life after an internet mob attack

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Post by driverdan »

camillomiller wrote: post #102

Had me for a while, then unfortunately lost me at the quote of Scott Adams. Adams is EXACTLY who I think anyone should avoid quoting at all costs, when you’re rightfully criticizing the Internet Morality Hordes. If you wanna know why, just scroll his Twitter timeline.

It's not just Adams. Search for Joseph Massey and you'll find his article is posted on the far right sites Quillette (former employers of Andy Ngo) and The American Mind (publishers of trash like "Defend America-Defeat Multiculturalism").

I don't know anything about Massey but publishing on these sites makes me think a lot less about his credibility.

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Post by didibus »

The saddest part of this, is that instances like this will overshadow the real scenarios of harassment and abuse, and victims of those will eventually be pushed back into having no voice and credibility once again.

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Post by fn-mote »

imgabe wrote: post #330
eyelidlessness wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I... don’t understand what you’re trying to convince me of here? Are you trying to morally equate me hypothetically naming people who’ve abused me to stealing from them, if I couldn’t defend a non-legal claim of what happened in court? I sincerely do not understand what you’re saying should change.

I understand that you are telling the truth. Do you understand that sometimes people do not tell the truth? The question is what level of consequence are you saying we should inflict on people before some kind of evidence beyond an accusation is required? If it's "I tell my friends about what happened, and then they turn down opportunities to work with that person". I don't think anyone would or could sue for libel a…

This is a very challenging interaction. I will try to keep a very even tone in this message.

The parent's last paragraph seems to set up a strawman, an extreme that seems to me to covered by current libel laws. (Is it not? Explain if I'm wrong.)

It is _possible_ that current libel laws don't "accurately delineate that point", but I am looking for a stronger argument in favor of change.

Based on the posts here, I think that the role and power of "viral"-ity is not well understood. In uncertain situations I would like to seek a clearer understanding instead of simply turning to legislative solutions - surely the question that will come up is "where is the line" and if we can't say we're not ready for a law.

@eyelidlessness Thank you for a very measured set of responses; they are beyond my skill or patience.

Re: Life after an internet mob attack

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Post by JPKab »

SamBam wrote: post #327
xbar wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly. Effective parody exaggerates reality, which she does. The quote works because it sounds like a large number of similar, genuine ones.

"I'm passing this quote around, not attributing it to being satire, and then when that's pointed out saying it's exaggerated and it works because it accurately represents people's beliefs, even though I said it was exaggerated."

It's blatantly obvious that it's satire, and the link makes that clear.

Re: Life after an internet mob attack

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Post by JPKab »

batch12 wrote: post #238
throwkeep wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a similar tendency I've noticed with these, where people who have met or interacted with the person pile on with vague statements. This is a popular one: "I met him once and knew something was off! He had a creepy vibe". I'm sure it reflects their interaction in some cases, but it's so common with these witch hunts (including the one in question here), there may be more to it. Motivated reasoning or something…

People want those sweet, sweet internet points and will lie and whore themselves to the mob to get them. How else does one know their true worth?

Attention whores, all of them, doing it to feed their pathetic dopamine addiction and mask their own lack of accomplishment.

Re: Life after an internet mob attack

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Post by tha0xb3 »

Toxic "non-traditional background in software" leftist ex-girlfriend was put on a PIP at Adobe and subsequently fired for being a worthless bloodsucker starts foaming at the mouth to cover her obvious lack of worth is peak Bay Area/SV leftism.

Re: Life after an internet mob attack

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Post by dcolkitt »

sizzle wrote: post #297
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #29

From the linked Notion "Receipts" page: > I've struggled to understand why so many people have piled on to these absurd accusations without facts. I watched a similar situation play out in real time. A friend had to fire an employee who wasn't submitting work or even responding to communications. The employe retaliated by using their moderately large social media presence to disparage my friend and her company. Stran…

The only solution is to delete social media and not play the game. Be a ghost.

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