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Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by throwaway0xa »

sib301 wrote: post #347
throwaway0xa wrote: post #339

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>1) A person is being insulted You got this wrong, it's not an insult. Somethingfag such as "oldfag", "newfag", "Archfag", etc. are not insults whatsoever. They're shibboleth terms for "old users", "new users", "Arch users". Your entire premise is incorrect. >2) The language of the insult is a comparison to another group of people. No one is being insulted, so this point is also wrong. >3) Being a member of that grou…

I’m not OP, but my friend, you don’t get it. It’s sort of mind blowing actually.

Glad you admit that both you and the OP don't get it. It's only mind blowing because you don't get it.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by [deleted] »

andyxor wrote: post #292
rualca wrote: post #287

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> 'speedballs' and exertion from resisting arrest (...) Does that "exertion" include a grown man kneeling on your neck while you repeatedly and desperately tell him that the knee on his neck is stopping him from breeding? Because, even taking that claim at face value, it's pretty clear that removing the risk factor of having a grown police officer kneeling on your back and neck in a way that's stopping you from breed…

the parent comment asked "why couldn't he breathe in the back of the car" noone was kneeling on him in the back of the car if you watch the full footage there are 16 min of body camera footage before the viral video with Chauvin started, check it out

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Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by rualca »

andyxor wrote: post #292
rualca wrote: post #287

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> 'speedballs' and exertion from resisting arrest (...) Does that "exertion" include a grown man kneeling on your neck while you repeatedly and desperately tell him that the knee on his neck is stopping him from breeding? Because, even taking that claim at face value, it's pretty clear that removing the risk factor of having a grown police officer kneeling on your back and neck in a way that's stopping you from breed…

the parent comment asked "why couldn't he breathe in the back of the car" noone was kneeling on him in the back of the car if you watch the full footage there are 16 min of body camera footage before the viral video with Chauvin started, check it out

> the parent comment asked "why couldn't he breathe in the back of the car"

Did George Floyd died in the back of the car? Or did he died after the police officer spent over 8 minutes kneeling on his neck until and after he lost conciousness?

Enough with this bullshit. It's absurd how these mental gymnasts try to inflate the relevance of trace amounts of a recreational drug as a smoking gun, which mind you was already thoroughly ruled out, but having a grown man kneeling on your neck for over 8 minutes after until the very moment the person dies is somehow worth no consideration?

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by bumblelad »

ineedasername wrote: post #346
matheusmoreira wrote: post #333

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If you visit anonymous imageboards, it's because you want to be exposed to the widest possible spectrum of humanity. There's a bias towards being offensive simply because those things are not allowed to surface anywhere else. If you stick around despite that, you'll realize the site has a rather unique culture. Occasionally, you'll run into great stuff that could never be expressed in sites such as this one. You ment…

I can understand that sometimes there's decent bit of non-hate content on 4chan, but what sort of great content would you find there that couldn't be expressed here, or in some other forum that isn't full of hatred?

Seeing your comments on a few other parts of this thread makes me think that it's probably better for you not to bother with 4chan. As others have kindly explained to you, insults on there are facetious as well as self describing, and of course, derogatory.

If you can't, or rather won't, see beyond that. Then it's just not for you. And that's fine.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

ineedasername wrote: post #337
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #318

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> I don't know what land you're in if it's a place where calling someone a "fa--ot [n-word]" doesn't get categorized into some sort of hate speech. This is the main point of contention. No one denies that such words are a common occurrence on 4chan , but you believe these words are automatically indicative of racism. Are you open to the idea that someone who refers to himself as “an Archfag” is simply communicating o…

I don't have anything to say about people that uses a slurs against themselves because that isn't what I saw in 4Chan. It was someone calling other people "Archfags" as an insult, and each of the other examples I cited were used as insults. I've checked /g/ a few times since I posted my original comment to see if it was a fluke, but nope: Still lots of racial & homophobic insults. So let's break it down: 1) A person…

> I don't have anything to say about people that uses a slurs against themselves because that isn't what I saw in 4Chan. It was someone calling other people "Archfags" as an insult, and each of the other examples I cited were used as insults. I've checked /g/ a few times since I posted my original comment to see if it was a fluke, but nope: Still lots of racial & homophobic insults.

I think you interpret these words are insults when they are simply descriptors.

You keep saying they are used so commonly but you don't provide any context for these quotes.

Let us consider: https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/archfag/

On the first page of 25 comments, 10 were used in a manner of disagreement with the person referred to, 5 were self-descriptors, 5 were in praise of others, and 5 were with no positive or negative inference to it.

If we search or "Arch user" instead:

https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/%22arch%20user%22/

We get rather similar results.

> So let's break it down:

Given that the phrase “Arch user” is used insultingly with the same frequency, would you apply the same logic to the word “user”?

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by thujlife »

deminature wrote: post #285
Anon1096 wrote: post #193

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There's plenty of other boards on 4chan where you can find people from all viewpoints posting. /cgl/ is well known to be majority female, and posters on /lit/ usually express center or left viewpoints. Even on /pol/, within a thread there will often be dissenters from the normal far-right average poster. Compared to other sites like Reddit where communities and posters with certain viewpoints are straight up banned,…

The fact that posters have to engage with a contradictory post instead of just downvoting it as on reddit has always been the strongest suit of 4chan. It's a great foil to the tiresome hivemind-eyness and tendency for only 'approved' opinions to be allowed to flourish on reddit.

4chan model will lead to a hivemind as well, once you scare off the general public. A circlejerk.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by solosoyokaze »

esyir wrote: post #345
solosoyokaze wrote: post #185

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> You have n-words That you have to blank that out and none of the others, should tell you everything you need to know about how equal or "endearing" this is. Bongs, Leafs, Burgers... This is all white supremacy no matter how someone tries to reframe it.

They also have americunts and amerifats if that makes you feel any better.

Still proves my point. You don’t have to censor that.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by solosoyokaze »

hda2 wrote: post #329
solosoyokaze wrote: post #310

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I'm talking about /pol since that's what the original post was about. You can't move the goalposts to all of 4chan.

This is nonsense. I have no horse in this race, but the only one moving goal posts here is you.

You clearly do have a horse in this race. Read the thread, it’s about /pol

Here's the OP:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26918378

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by solosoyokaze »

Hacker29382 wrote: post #341
solosoyokaze wrote: post #308

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It's offensive to everyone who's not a racist. Is that your definition of "outsider"? What do you think those words mean?

On 4chan, the -fag suffix is barely offensive and can even be a term of endearment.

It’s offensive off 4chan, it doesn’t matter what they think.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by solosoyokaze »

hda2 wrote: post #326
solosoyokaze wrote: post #307

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> "these words are used solely for the purpose of expressing racist and homophobic feelings". There's no other way to use these words. They're always racist and homophobic. That's the point, /pol is a cesspool of racism and homophobia.

> There's no other way to use these words. They're always racist and homophobic. The way this thread progressed was very fascinating to read. First, an absurd baseless generalization was made. Then, when challenged, the generalization was narrowed down a bit. Then it was narrowed down again and again until we got this comment which asserts an outright lie. These words aren't always used in a racist and homophobic way…

These words are always racist. It doesn’t matter what 4chan claims.
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