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Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by vehementi »

tru3_power wrote: post #317
fish45 wrote: post #77

Speaking as an 18 y.o. doing my first year college online, I wouldn't have made it through quarantine without Discord. I've a server with my high school friends and since Discord lowers the barrier to join a voice call so much it's super chill to just hop in a channel when doing homework or playing a game or whatever else, and anyone else who's free can join. I really wish there were competition, but there's nothing…

The voice chat rooms reminds me exactly of this program called Ventrillo or “vent” as we used to call it back when I was in high school. I’m officially old! https://www.ventrilo.com/

That's exactly it yes. Discord is ventrilo/mumble/teamspeak, but hosted and with IRC channels.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by tracker1 »

happytoexplain wrote: post #43
curiousgal wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been using Teams for school for two years now and have zero complaints.

Sometimes you need to be a "power user" to encounter all a product's flaws. I've been using it professionally for 3.5 years, and I touch pretty much every feature. I had high hopes because I loved a lot of the decisions they were making, so I started maintaining a list of issues/bugs. I reported them when I had time to describe them well. After a year, it got into the hundreds, with some that were pretty dramatic, an…

I think my biggest pet peive is the existence of Files/Wikis per/channel... when most of the time, you kind of one one set per team. Or the proliferation of Team groups themselves.

Goes from pretty simple/useful to crazy bloated.

Another irksome thing is you can tether the wiki along with files to onedrive via the sharepoint backend links... but the format of the wiki is in a proprietary format, and even if you did get it, it doesn't sync the other way, read only local.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by AceJohnny2 »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #244
sbagel wrote: post #228

Discord does not give users a choice to opt-out of their wildly invasive data collection methods including logging executables running on your system while the desktop client is open, not just games. This data alone is very valuable. Comment from a 2019 support thread "I am pretty flabbergasted that people aren't making a bigger deal of this than they are. Discord actively monitors your executables, but the larger co…

It sends a list of running programs, including the command line arguments to the server. It's worrying because although it's bad practice some programs get passed credentials like this. With regards to Discord's invasion of privacy as a whole, I'm not sure if it's malice or incompetence.

For one thing, command-line arguments are public information about processes in every OS since forever. Putting security-sensitive information there is a fault of its developers, not Discord.

For another, Discord spies on the system to report what games you're playing, including which mods. It's a cool feature for some, but indeed requires a set of abilities that are indistinguishable from malware.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by tracker1 »

wussboy wrote: post #111
decebalus1 wrote: post #15

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Teams has been rushed to market 4 years ago..

And it was still better than the dumpster fire that was Skype for Business. I loved how it would push a message to the device that it thought you were active on, but that there wasn't a centralized storage of messages. Messages sent to Device 1 didn't exist on Device 2.

That was so bad... you'd reply to a message at lunch on your way back, get to your desktop, and couldn't get messages at all... even if you sent one out.

That was the absolute most frustrating thing.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by judge2020 »

sbagel wrote: post #228

Discord does not give users a choice to opt-out of their wildly invasive data collection methods including logging executables running on your system while the desktop client is open, not just games. This data alone is very valuable. Comment from a 2019 support thread "I am pretty flabbergasted that people aren't making a bigger deal of this than they are. Discord actively monitors your executables, but the larger co…

This is false - your list of running executables is never exported. Instead, it works by downloading a list of games to scan for[0,1] and runs a local scan that only compares them against this in-memory list of programs, never making a XHR with info from the scan.

The API does not require authorization so you can view it in your browser: http://discord.com/api/v8/applications/detectable

0: https://i.judge.sh/boring/Babs/Discord_gMqvfoQEor.png

1: https://i.judge.sh/focused/Dash/Discord_qbSQfFNWZn.png

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by tracker1 »

toastercat wrote: post #22
COGlory wrote: post #2

What about Discord besides network effect makes it a desirable holding? Do they have any technological advantage?

The UX and featureset of Discord is impressive. The UX in particular is superior to Slack, Teams, or any other modern chat application I've used. I'd like to move my group to Matrix, but Element (fka Riot.im) is nowhere near as polished or user-friendly as Discord.

There are elements I like about most of the above that I've used. Portions of Discord are really bad, especially on a phone. Teams is worse in ways, better than others. With Teams, I kind of want to disable half the features for all channels other than General.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by hkmurakami »

lacker wrote: post #329
tru3_power wrote: post #317

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The voice chat rooms reminds me exactly of this program called Ventrillo or “vent” as we used to call it back when I was in high school. I’m officially old! https://www.ventrilo.com/

okay oldie... when I was in high school if you wanted to talk to your friends while playing games with them you both needed a second phone line, so your 56k modems could use the other line to play Doom

Did you have to reconnect to EarthLink multiple times until it gave you 56k instead of 24 or 32? That was living wild baby!!

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by hkmurakami »

exhaze wrote: post #339
lacker wrote: post #329

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okay oldie... when I was in high school if you wanted to talk to your friends while playing games with them you both needed a second phone line, so your 56k modems could use the other line to play Doom

Why would you subject yourself to that? Just have them come over and help you carry your heavy tower and even heavier CRT to LAN at their house, even if it’s a mile away (me and friends literally did this in Fremont, CA - though I believe it might have been a bit less than a mile)

But then it would take 4 hours to figure out Windows networking in your computer. (Been there done that)

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by hkmurakami »

derwiki wrote: post #342
exhaze wrote: post #339

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Why would you subject yourself to that? Just have them come over and help you carry your heavy tower and even heavier CRT to LAN at their house, even if it’s a mile away (me and friends literally did this in Fremont, CA - though I believe it might have been a bit less than a mile)

I hosted a LAN party for my friends because I wanted to practice setting up a small network. It’s funny to think that was once semi-challenging.

Not funny. Major PTSD coming back!!!

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by hkmurakami »

WalterBright wrote: post #345
lacker wrote: post #329

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okay oldie... when I was in high school if you wanted to talk to your friends while playing games with them you both needed a second phone line, so your 56k modems could use the other line to play Doom

When I was in high school if you wanted to talk to your friends you'd meet at a parking lot and do burnouts.

Were your friends burnouts in O shapes while your burnouts were in a D shape? :)
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