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Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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Critiquing the framing doesn't mean they didn't understand.

Sure, but the manner in which they critiqued the framing shows they didn't understand, potentially deliberately.

It's a common rhetorical device.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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Anyone who has ever taught young boys and girls has almost certainly experienced a marked difference in behavior.

Schooling as a whole needs to be overhauled to better accommodate young boys. Until then, we're going to see wider and wider gaps at highschool and university levels.

Regardless of gender, schooling as a whole needs to move away from this factory-like system with underpaid teachers and an emphasis on test scores. It would be nice if there were an easy solution...

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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Not really. I'd argue that standardized tests are much better than grades. Particularly for any grade level below university. At university level, the grades are more accurate (but still flawed) because the grade is typically 70-80% test and quiz based. My experience in the US with grades for middle school and high school is that it's 85-90% non-examination based-- Meaning it's essentially a measure for how well you…

Except if people actually prepare for the standardized tests in some way or another as is usually the case ... "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure." Your point is still valid though, I find university test scores more "accurate" too, whatever that means for learning.

Preparing to solve questions in STEM subjects is what learning STEM is all about.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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Imagine reading that men perform better in their careers, and saying to women: "The amount of insecurity in the thread is a little embarrassing ladies. Let's be open minded and entertain the possibility that men are indeed more capable and that societal constructs drag down their educational opportunities."

I don't have to imagine it; you can see that sentiment on HN threads about gender pretty regularly.

You regularly see condescending comments about male career/educational opportunities being oppressed on HN?

We must be reading very different HN posts.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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> son needs more discipline This does not seem like the right conclusion. More like "needs running around time and free play". Cf. e.g. https://www.alfiekohn.org/article/discipline-problem-solutio... https://www.alfiekohn.org/article/beyond-discipline-article/

Discipline is probably the wrong word. More training in order to succeed in an unnatural environment (modern school) is maybe a better way to put it.

Or changing the unnatural environment.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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Layout is more important than handwriting for maths, no?

poorly written 7's can look like 1's, and 5's like 6's. I lost a lot of points in high school math because I couldn't read what I had just written on the previous line!

Taking notes for my maths degree I learnt to 'cross' my 7s and zs.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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Have you been living in a cave for the past 10 years?

What makes you think that he's been living in cave?

Because culturally the world (At least the western world) has the complete opposite attitude.

Feelings are more important than facts to many people nowadays.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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Then why do boys/men seem better at inventing things (edit: from past statistics)?

My understanding is that IQ is distributed such that men are slightly lower on average than women, but more spread out.

If this is true, then it would follow that there would be more genius men than women, which would explain what you mention.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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Do we want equality in this area? Should we change schooling to make it easier for boys than girls until we get to 50/50 achievement? Or should we retain the status quo to boost the chances of women succeeding later in their lives when they do not achieve in their careers at the same level as men?

Don't disadvantage young men for the troubles older generations have caused. They did not want to be the scapegoat of women of older generations being held back by society in any form.

Frankly, all the quotas and other artificial constructions to help women should already tip people off that disadvantaging young men further will only cause more and more resentment.

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