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Signal is having technical difficulties
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Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#352Earlier quoted context omitted.
I really wish the EU would put up funds for open source software, like signal, it seems to be something they could get behind for the greater good. My previous job involved creating a graphical programming language for the generation of GPU shaders, which the EU partly funded. I knew it was going nowhere, and it made me slightly sad tax payer money was being used on something I knew, despite my best efforts, would no…
>I really wish the EU would put up funds for open source software, like signal, it seems to be something they could get behind for the greater good. They do https://hexus.net/tech/news/software/125747-14-open-source-p...
I just wonder about the process and the results. I mean, it doesn't look to me, as if there is a management behind this, that actually has a goal.
It looks more like they are giving funds to projects who apply for them. IMO, they should state 3 clear goals and sponsor specific projects which reach those goals. To give some example how those could look like:
- create a decentralized, federated instant messaging platform, that is build on public standards
- create an e-learning platform that is usable with already established devices
- establish a market for the created software with partners
Naturally, all result would have to be open-source products and the goals would need some details/numbers to measure them. They could even invest into already established projects, but please, with easy to understand goals.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#353I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/
Does anyone know if donating to Signal is considered a qualified donation under the CARES Act. The $300 deduction was extended for 2021 [0].
[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleaebeling/2020/12/22/new-bi...
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#354I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/
thank you for that link -- just donated $50!
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#355I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/
I really wish the EU would put up funds for open source software, like signal, it seems to be something they could get behind for the greater good. My previous job involved creating a graphical programming language for the generation of GPU shaders, which the EU partly funded. I knew it was going nowhere, and it made me slightly sad tax payer money was being used on something I knew, despite my best efforts, would no…
I wisth they do not put up funds to signal. It is closed ecosystem. Even traditional phone calls are more open (having federated independent operators and interoperable implementations).
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#356I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/
What’s the evidence that they are short on dough vs can’t hire?
Adding more servers to support more users, also means more bandwidth. Those are increasing costs at a rate that they had not planned. Their spend rate has to be insane now to keep things running on top of their rents, utlities, opex. They have to be needing more money than they planned for.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#357I am very interested in hearing the postmortem of this extended outage technology/architecture stand point. Not to be cynical, but I wonder if this is caused by an attack by the company who is losing users!
Sounds like simple resource starvation: https://twitter.com/signalapp/status/1350165610936766464 (which is kinda understandable if they're experiencing off the charts turbo growth)
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#358Earlier quoted context omitted.
> USA-based metadata processing Do you mean that they have servers in the US? US based company? They don't leak metadata, that's the difference between Signal and Telegram/WhatsApp. If the encryption is good it shouldn't matter what country the company or servers is in. That's kinda the point of encryption...
You connect to AWS when you connect to Signal. That means the USA is the government with the most influence on Amazon to have taps placed or connection logs handed over. They can do sealed sender stuff all they like, but when 10.0.1.1 sends a 17-byte message and the server then sends a 17-byte message to 10.0.2.1, and a minute later 10.0.2.1 submits something to the server of 48 bytes and then 48 bytes are forwarded…
> You connect to AWS when you connect to Signal. That means the USA is the government with the most influence on Amazon to have taps placed or connection logs handed over.
I'm not an networking guy but can you explain this more? I'm actually curious and what better place to get actual info than HN? If you have a sealed sender then shouldn't this be impossible? Shouldn't the size of the message be sealed as well and when the message is received you'd see that 1) it is signed by a different key and 2) the message size doesn't match? Shouldn't this be rejected? 3) Shouldn't this also apply to any app because traffic is going to bounce through some US based (or US company owned) server? My understanding is that sending data from San Francisco to Berkeley can route through Seattle or Tokyo depending on optimal routing, server configurations, and loads.
> Other than, say, your real-life-identity-tied user ID of course.
This is why I'm excited for the usernames. They are promising them this year.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#359For all of you saying we should switch to Matrix, please outline the user sign up flow in your comment. Be detailed. Your audience is your 50 something aunt who calls her iPad her Facebook.
This is definitely the weakest point of Matrix. There are clients that have a nice setup flow (like FluffyChat) but the are missing some pretty important (to me) features such as sending images and video calling.
Re: Signal is having technical difficulties
#360This is not good. I've moved so many people over in the last week. For purposes of getting them invested, this is a truly inopportune moment for an extended outage.
I read the message differently. It looks like there have been so many people wanting to switch, that Signal was overwhelmed by the new demand.
I don't know if it is true, but for your peers it certainly is a different story to tell them about all the people who are switching than just about a service who had an outage. Hopefully, the next days will bring some light to the cause of the outage.