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Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by duluca »

jsheard wrote: post #249
Klathmon wrote: post #224

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I wonder if the "MagSafe" they are talking about is the new magsafe wireless charging on the iphone 12? It would be nice to be able to have a charging pad for my laptop rather than needing to mess with wires at all. Speculation time! I wonder if they will be able to put a magsafe wireless charging spot both under the laptop, and on top next to the trackpad! They could let you charge your iphone from your laptop, and…

> Speculation time! I wonder if they will be able to put a magsafe wireless charging spot [...] on "top" next to the trackpad! Apple patented that idea just recently: https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/5/22215413/apple-patent-devi...

This would be amazing, when traveling becomes a thing again. It sucks to maintain so many charging devices in a hotel room

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by TheTrotters »

yoz-y wrote: post #76
Keloran wrote: post #26

I quite like the Touch Bar, with things like pock it means I can have full screen, hide the dock entire and still have notifications And the ability to set custom apps inside it with iterm, and not have to loose a key on the board itself I spend most of my time in vi when in terminal, and never had a “I’m missing an escape” ever

Touch Bar would have been more useful had they have an external keyboard with it. Almost no developers supported it because it was only available on a subset of devices. And then only in the case when people actually use the internal keyboard. I guess this excludes a lot of people who hook their computers to an external keyboard, screen and so on all the time. It’s quite like 3D Touch in this sense. (But I actually l…

Yes! Apple sells ~18-21 million Macs a year. Out of those no MacBook Air, no iMac, no Mac mini, no iMac Pro, no Mac Pro, and some models of 13" MacBook Pro have the Touch Bar. Apple never went all-in on it. Though I'm happy if they're indeed going back to physical function keys.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by lostlogin »

ardy42 wrote: post #320
wlesieutre wrote: post #252

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My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Could this be talking about an iPhone 12 style magsafe with a large pad? Not sure how that would work, you'd have to set your computer on top of it to have enough contact…

> My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Magsafe is more than neat, it pretty much solved the major annoyance with laptop power cables (e.g. someone trips on cable, and laptop gets jerked around, eventually da…

I too loved MagSafe. It wasn’t without issues though. The cables didn’t have strain relief so ended up destroyed in certain hands. The other issue may be more region specific - New Zealand has iron sand beaches and fine black sand gets everywhere. Presumably some got into a bag of mine and a very small amount go into the laptop charging ports of multiple laptops. It caused the charger to not connect perfectly and this generated hear and blackened the plug and laptop around the port.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by wlesieutre »

ardy42 wrote: post #320
wlesieutre wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Could this be talking about an iPhone 12 style magsafe with a large pad? Not sure how that would work, you'd have to set your computer on top of it to have enough contact…

> My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Magsafe is more than neat, it pretty much solved the major annoyance with laptop power cables (e.g. someone trips on cable, and laptop gets jerked around, eventually da…

Here's an alternate solution to that problem: build a laptop with 20 hours of battery so that people aren't sitting on the couch with their laptop on the coffee table and a power cord dangling across the living room floor.

I don't have an M1 machine, but the impression I get from people is that "Plug it in overnight at your desk and literally don't worry about its battery running out" is a reasonable thing to do now.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by TheTrotters »

gumby wrote: post #325
mad182 wrote: post #271

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> Type C is pretty ubiquitous by now. Not really. From top of my head I could easily gather > 30 things at my house with the plain old USB A connector (several flash drives, keyboards, mouses, Bluetooth and WiFi adapters, smart card reader, external hdd enclosures, a stack of old laptops, r-pi, headphones, routers, playstation, tv, car diagnostics cables and probably several other things I can't remember). There are…

About a year ago I stopped buying anything USBable that didn't use Type C. Even an electric toothbrush charged via PD. It hasn't been that hard. You might have some old legacy devices but that's not what I meant. This reminds me of the USB transition with the first iMac. There was some angst but it settled down.

I'm trying to do the same since late 2018.

But I think most household will be using USB-A, USB-C, HDMI, and possibly lightning for years and years. My sister bought noise-cancelling Bose headphones last year and they still had micro-USB.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by ericsoderstrom »

ravenstine wrote: post #216

I'll believe it when I see it. I could believe them getting rid of the touchbar, but bringing back magsafe? I'm sticking with my 2015 MacBook until it's irreparable, and I do like the magsafe port, but is there really any point in going back after moving to USB-C? I think I just like magsafe because it's cool more than that it actually has some sort of superiority over USB-C. I've tripped over the USB-C cable to my w…

The USB C connection on my laptop loosened over time. To the point that the cable now just falls out unless I keep the laptop completely still. Having a magnet in there to keep the cable in place would be nice. No reason you couldn't use a magnet with a USB-C connection though, best of both worlds and whatnot

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Post by IfOnlyYouKnew »

minitoar wrote: post #288
zlsa wrote: post #261

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How hot does a 50-watt incandescent lightbulb get? That's what an extra 50 watts of wasted power will feel like.

My house is cold, the extra heat is welcome here. I only have electric heat.

Unless you live in the tropics, electric heat is borderline unconscionable with regards to climate change.

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Post by oh_hello »

Keloran wrote: post #26

I quite like the Touch Bar, with things like pock it means I can have full screen, hide the dock entire and still have notifications And the ability to set custom apps inside it with iterm, and not have to loose a key on the board itself I spend most of my time in vi when in terminal, and never had a “I’m missing an escape” ever

I agree after a year or so with my 16" MBP. My first attitude was that it was useless after hearing years of complaints. This machine has the physical escape key and I believe that combination really works.

I'm not using the Touch Bar constantly, even when typing on the built-in keyboard. Discovery is slow because you have to become familiar with which options are available in specific applications and for specific contexts. This is a legitimate problem. Over time I've built up a decent number of uses that I know are there and make life better.

The negativity is unreasonable to me. It would be very interesting to know how much a Touch Bar increases the cost of each MacBook. To me it seems Apple took a section of the keyboard very, very few users used and replaced it with something that probably can be helpful to most users at least some of the time.

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