So the latest fake news is that everyone is being told to shut off operating system updates permanently on their devices to "block apple and google".
Good job Big Tech. Now we have a million unpatchable devices.
Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc
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#352Earlier quoted context omitted.
Twitter has a moderation policy and applied it. Parler didn’t and didn’t apply anything. Edit: also fuck everyone related to Parler. Read in detail: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/johnpaczkowski/amazon-p...
It's weird how inconsistent they are about it Tweets from Ayatollah Khomeini talking about how Israel is a cancer[1] that needs to be violently eradicated[2] apparently don't run afoul of the "Glorification of Violence" policy. OTOH Trump's 2 tweets, which were tame in comparison, were bannable. [1]: https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1003332853525110784 [2]: https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/126374233989129…
Don’t try defending it with whataboutism...
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#353I don't know if people trying to argue that twitter is just as bad as Parler are doing it out of ignorance of the issues or just bad faith. Parler isn't being dropped by private companies because a user said something mean on their service. They're being dropped by AWS, Apple, Google etc because they allow, even encourages its users to conspire to commit violence and assassinate public officials. The main reasons its…
>I don't know if people trying to argue that twitter is just as bad as Parler are doing it out of ignorance of the issues or just bad faith.
The thing is, Trump never ever called for riots. You have to read between the lines and ignore his history of being anti-riots and go for a bad faith interreption to even consider him having called for what happened.
Flipside,
How many celebrities were calling for the death of the maga hat kit? They got away with it.
Iranian's Khamanei has outright called for jews to be exterminated. Various other middle eastern leaders have called for gays to be killed. They are outright double standards.
Regardless, it was very clear Trump was to be banned. At the end of the day it's very interesting how all these tech companies came together to ban not trump but vast array of their supporters. So far the known count for Twitter is >200,000 trump supporters.
At all 200,000 inciting violence? Does the USA really have that many people looking to overthrow the government?
>They're being dropped by AWS, Apple, Google etc because they allow, even encourages its users to conspire to commit violence and assassinate public officials.
So the entire platform is to be removed because of some content. More specifically, if someone wants to destroy a platform, they need only have bots spam comments and therefore the platform goes offline?
>The main reasons its users went to Parler in the first place is because they weren't allowed to do that on twitter and reddit.
No, that's not accurate at all. there were millions of users on parler. Many of which weren't even american nor care what was going on.
This is at best a rationalization for shutting down the platform.
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#354The irony is that a few years ago everyone thought the telco's were going to be the ones to control what you see/do on the internet. lol
Has this become an anti-trust issue (assuming there is a way to tie it to the Sherman Act) based on monopoly power? Google and Apple have 99.83% market share, owning both the platforms and distribution? Is it time to break these up?
/s
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-sta...
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#355I have seen so many violent threats and incitements on Twitter, Snapchat, Facebook, and Instagram over the last 5 years that Parler could possibly make the case that they've been singled out, but I doubt it. They're just too unsympathetic of a plaintiff, imho. That said, antitrust battles against Big Tech will dominate the next four years of economic policy, and rightfully so. GAFA is too big, too powerful, too manip…
Low energy comment here, but I haven't seen GAFA as an acronym yet (and it makes sense because Netflix no longer has the same power it used to). funny acronym too, because of 'making a gaffe' can kinda be, making a GAFA. I agree with you that there definitely will be a new relationship between gov and tech in the next 4 years.
Lower-energy comment here to concur on first-time seeing that acronym, but also to iterate with the thought-network of: "GAFTA"
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#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the fake Giuliani/Hunter Biden laptop story What was fake about it? AFAIK no factual claim has been refuted and some have been robustly proved (e.g. the gmail sent emails that have been published pass DKIM validation). If you want to say the timing of it was a transparent attempt at political manipulation, I'd fully agree.
Good point, I had forgotten that Rob of Errata Security was given an email to verify and it was proven to be legitimate: > So as I blogged before, the emails contained DKIM information, which the original reporters could and should have verified. So I eventually got a copy of the email and run DKIM verification on it. It passed: https://twitter.com/erratarob/status/1322007153415200768 I think he's pretty active (and…
Strange that Rob doesn't mention the possibility that the private key was compromised. What the DKIM signature really proves is the date the message was sent, not who composed the message.
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#357And here we see the problem with centralized social media. Did anyone think that handing control over to megacorps would end differently? Today it’s Parler, tomorrow it’s whatever political ideology Big Tech finds inconvenient.
Parler had the same "political ideology" the week before the violence. No one cared about their ideology. Once specific violent acts occured, and calls went un-addressed on Parler for more violence, people started to care. The violence is the issue, not the ideology.
> The violence is the issue, not the ideology.
If this was true,
- Twitter would be banned for hosting the heads of mass-murdering regimes
- Facebook would be banned for CSAM and violent content
- Reddit would be banned for the false Boston Bomber doxxing and subsequent murder
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#3581). AWS can suspend service for any customer immediately upon giving that customer notice. They do not have to provide a "remediation period" or give the customer any grace time at all. Every customer agrees to this as part of the AWS Customer Agreement 2). AWS can terminate an account immediately if they deem you in violation of their policies instead of a suspension - as was the case with Parler. It's all in the AW…
Surely they're observing best practice cloud process and can therefore just spin up the service in another provider pronto?
No, not according to the lawsuit: "Parler has tried to find alternative companies to host it and they have fallen through. It has no other options. Without AWS, Parler is finished as it has no way to get online."
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#359And here we see the problem with centralized social media. Did anyone think that handing control over to megacorps would end differently? Today it’s Parler, tomorrow it’s whatever political ideology Big Tech finds inconvenient.
Please stop pretending this was motivated only by "political ideology". The facts are pretty simple here. Parler had illegal content on their servers and refused to moderate it effectively. Companies asked them to fix their moderation issue and they refused, this is the consequence. They aren't being kicked off because they said "I like Trump" they are being kicked off for inciting violence and hosting content that c…
Please stop pretending that every other major social media platform does not or has not hosted users calling for - or actually committing - truly horrendous acts. Parler is hardly the first social media company that has had violent users.
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#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
The question is whether that's legal, or anticompetitive
Anticompetitive? Is parler competing with amazon in any ways, shape or form?
The claim is that AWS and Twitter are strategic partners, and Twitter is a direct competitor of Parler -
> 4. AWS’s decision to effectively terminate Parler’s account is apparently motivated by political animus. It is also apparently designed to reduce competition in the microblogging services market to the benefit of Twitter. 5. Thus, AWS is violating Section 1 of the Sherman Antitrust Act in combination with Defendant Twitter
> 15. Less than a month ago, AWS announced with a press release a new multi-year deal with Twitter. AWS will “provide global cloud infrastructure to deliver Twitter timelines.” Twitter Selects AWS as Strategic Provider to Serve Timelines, Press Center, Amazon, (Dec. 15, 2020), https://press.aboutamazon.com/news-releases/news-release-det....