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Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by hotsauceror »

spchampion2 wrote: post #52
rainyMammoth wrote: post #10

How long before all the Californians make Austin the exact same place they fled from?

Wait until they learn about cedar fever. Juniperus ashei pollinates in the winter, starting right about now through February. Pollen levels are still relatively low, but by January the trees explode and people are miserable. Last January they were reporting almost 28,000 cedar pollen grains per cubic meter of air in the Austin area. Misery. Pure misery. https://www.kxan.com/top-stories/cedar-pollen-reaches-highes...

Just northwest of the city it’s crazy. When the wind gets up in January there will just be thick yellow clouds of pollen blowing off the Mountain Cedars, and everything is covered in it.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by carlineng »

oillio wrote: post #268
suyash wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oracle Redwood Shores (Old HQ) is one of the most beautiful campus of tech company in Silicon Valle with trails etc and a lake where the America's Cup winning Catamaran is parked. Wonder if they will move that to Austin as well.

I agree, beautiful campus. Fun fact: the buildings were designed to resemble the symbol for databases in logical diagrams. https://images.app.goo.gl/ybduLEGuAFxeGaL88

Another fun fact, the San Carlos airport nearby has an FAA identifier of SQL: https://www.airnav.com/airport/KSQL

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by gallego2007 »

whatok wrote: post #2

Relevant text: Oracle is implementing a more flexible employee work location policy and has changed its Corporate Headquarters from Redwood City, California to Austin, Texas. We believe these moves best position Oracle for growth and provide our personnel with more flexibility about where and how they work. Depending on their role, this means that many of our employees can choose their office location as well as cont…

I read this as the US Central time zone is convenient for working with people on both Coasts and those working remote.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by octoberfranklin »

protomyth wrote: post #57
rainyMammoth wrote: post #10

How long before all the Californians make Austin the exact same place they fled from?

People show up in new area because its better than where they left and decide to vote for the same politicians that screwed up their old area. Happens all the time as logic is hard. or to put it like one of the folks here: "you peed in your pool and moved to ours, don't do that again"

> "you peed in your pool and moved to ours, don't do that again"

The book _Ishmael_ had an interesting perspective on that.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by dragonwriter »

singhrac wrote: post #103
dmode wrote: post #66

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How does labor law impact anything when everyone is WFH ? Also, do taxes really have anything to do with your HQ location ? All corporations are registered in Delaware.

Often (maybe always?) employees pay income tax in the state where their company's headquarters is, or the local office in which they work.

Usually, the place of the employees residence and the physical worksite; rules for interstate travel for work and state income tax are different per state, with some applying tax on the first day of work in the state, others having a number of days threshold.

The employer’s HQ generally has no effect, independently of it being a worksite for many employees.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by hedora »

selimthegrim wrote: post #311
jeffbee wrote: post #158

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Ree-hee-hee-ally? California is far and away the #1 destination of educated and wealthy domestic migrants, especially from "red states", by which I assume you mean states that habitually vote for Republicans. Pick any MAGA-infested den of ignorance that you prefer, and the story is the same. I choose Sioux Falls, SD, which has an overall negative net domestic migration that is extremely negative among people with som…

New Orleans checks all your positive boxes and Louisiana still has the migration pattern you attribute to SD.

New Orleans is rapidly sinking into the ocean because of climate change (hurricanes) and poor management of the delta.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by dragonwriter »

singhrac wrote: post #189
jldugger wrote: post #125

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Is that ever true? I'm pretty sure you pay income tax in the state in which you work, regardless of where HQ is.

I am not a tax attorney obviously, but the information I've been given (by many sources) is that this year I'll pay taxes for the state in which my employer resides, not where I've been living. I think the decider is "state in which you work", which is what I meant by "local office" (i.e. I'm still considered to "work" in NY).

New York is attempting to do that, true. Usually it is your state of residence and the state in which you physically work that tax you (both, if they are different), but New York’s novel claim is unlikely to succeed for work by non-NY residents that doesn't occur in NY.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by atwebb »

vincentmarle wrote: post #247
beagle3 wrote: post #42

Likely irrelevant, but reminded me of this[0]: """Basically, we’re moving because of William Whyte‘s rule: virtually all corporate relocations involve a move to a location which is closer to the CEO’s home than the old location. Whyte discovered this principle after an extensive study of Fortune 500 companies that left New York City for the suburbs in the 1950s and 1960s""" Tesla will likely move its HQ to Texas foll…

Same with the Amazon "HQ2" relocation, all of the options that were considered happened to be places where Jeff Bezos owns a home.

Is that true? Why would any of that be limiting for a person who could by any home in a given city?

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by dragonwriter »

baskire wrote: post #210
dmode wrote: post #157

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I don't think this is true. Employees pay taxes based on residency requirement. So if you are not a resident of CA, you don't pay taxes, regardless of where your HQ is

If California can claim the work was done in or for California. They’ll tax it. If you work remote from Texas but hr says your desk is in California. You owe California taxes.

> If California can claim the work was done in or for California

In yes, for no.

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