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YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by elicash »

rubyist5eva wrote: post #7
firloop wrote: post #3

> Yesterday was the safe harbor deadline for the U.S. Presidential election and enough states have certified their election results to determine a President-elect. Given that, we will start removing any piece of content uploaded today (or anytime after) that misleads people by alleging that widespread fraud or errors changed the outcome of the 2020 U.S. Presidential election... This is likely going to make a lot of c…

The safe harbour deadline is mostly procedural anyway. Justice Ginsburg even said something along the lines that the only real date that matters is when Congress actually certifies the electoral college votes - in January.

She said that... in a MINORITY opinion. The majority of justices disagreed and gave it much weight.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by mesozoic »

invalidusernam3 wrote: post #159
bradenb wrote: post #105

Doesn't this just feed into people's fears about conspiracies? I can't understand why people are signing off on this. Let the Like/Dislike button do its job.

I think you're overestimating the average internet user. A lot of people think that because they view something online, it gives it authority. They fail to understand anyone can (and does) post content online. I've often thought this way of thinking is a remnant of the media we've consumed in the past, where there were higher standards because producing media was more exclusive. Think print, radio, TV. On those mediu…

That is not a good argument in 2020 and you have no evidence that it's even true.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by hashmymustache »

slacka wrote: post #281
muttantt wrote: post #176

This is ridiculous. Regardless of your politics, this is just going the wrong direction. Where was this policy when the other side was pushing the Russia collusion narrative for years?

Nice false equivalence. Judges have ruled that Trump's side has failed to show any evidence of fraud in Court, losing 50/51 court cases, with the "win" having nothing to do with fraud[1]. On the other hand, there are literally thousand of pages from the Senate Committee on Intelligence showing evidence of Russian Interference in 2016. [2] [3], along with the Mueller Report [4]. Russian Interference in 2016 is not com…

Funny how the comment you’re responding to said Russian collusion but you instead bring up the separate topic of Russian interference.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by originalvichy »

America has such a secure and strong democracy, that an internet video platform has to take steps just so it will not unwillingly help incite a civil war in the country they operate out of. Internet blackouts are literally "developing world unstable democracy" tier measures.

I feel sorry for you guys out there. I wish you had a political system that was immune to events like this so online video companies wouldn't have to stand up. An online video site is literally doing the job of politicians.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by mesozoic »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #162
bradenb wrote: post #105

Doesn't this just feed into people's fears about conspiracies? I can't understand why people are signing off on this. Let the Like/Dislike button do its job.

I doubt this policy is based on any sort of broad principle. Youtube just doesn't want its platform to play any part in the currently ongoing coup attempt.

If there is widespread election fraud (which has not been proven and includes an undefined term used as a negative persuasion tool "widespread" anyway) then that is the coup attempt you refer to and their platform is host to uncountable instances of people claiming a certain person has been elected and now there will be no counter information for people to consider the alternatives.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by titzer »

howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #110

We are very fortunate to have the algorithms, employees & management of Youtube/Google watching out for us. We're not intelligent enough to view a video and decide for ourselves what is fact v. propaganda v. entertainment. Hopefully some day we will have the same protections the CCP gives its people with even more content moderation. Thank you Google - you're the nanny the American people and the world always hoped f…

This is completely within Google's deeply held belief that they are smarter than everyone else.

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Post by inglor_cz »

SCLeo wrote: post #289
howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #110

We are very fortunate to have the algorithms, employees & management of Youtube/Google watching out for us. We're not intelligent enough to view a video and decide for ourselves what is fact v. propaganda v. entertainment. Hopefully some day we will have the same protections the CCP gives its people with even more content moderation. Thank you Google - you're the nanny the American people and the world always hoped f…

This is slippery slope fallacy. I don't think YouTube removing genuially harmful and false content is really comparable to CCP's suppression of opposing views.

What if CCP believes that opposing views are false and harmful?

Especially the "harmful" part is bendable beyond belief.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by unethical_ban »

howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #110

We are very fortunate to have the algorithms, employees & management of Youtube/Google watching out for us. We're not intelligent enough to view a video and decide for ourselves what is fact v. propaganda v. entertainment. Hopefully some day we will have the same protections the CCP gives its people with even more content moderation. Thank you Google - you're the nanny the American people and the world always hoped f…

This, but unironically.

It is unsettling, but look at where we are in 2020, when deepfakes are not yet zero-effort. Imagine a world where every mobile device can deepfake any activity with any person's face. Now think of how places like Newsmax, Fox and Infowars have no scruples spreading lies or dancing around the truth.

We need institutions to trust. Trust in authoritative journalism is all we will have in the future.

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