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Re: No More Google

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Post by raxxorrax »

jason0597 wrote: post #34

These anti-Google discussions come and go on the front page of Hacker News, but I'd be curious to know how many people actually degoogle their lives drastically after reading such discussions and articles. I believe it's more of a case of "Oh my god, Google is so disgusting! Shame on Google!", and then people open up a new tab in Chrome to search on Google about their next restaurant destination as if nothing happene…

I did mostly. I have a Google-Mail I am only using for Android related stuff. I did buy some apps for mobile but have stopped it completely and I don't think I want to ever get back to it.

I am never logged in while searching or on YouTube, which they don't like given the newest message that pops up randomly with a prompt to sign in. Mobile and PC are completely compartmentalized, I don't need to sync anything.

I use duckduckgo, since I can just add +g to get Google results and otherwise it uses Bing. Perfect for privacy and convenience.

I use Chrome and FF at work, but I vastly prefer FF. I use their services if useful, but I certainly try to minimize data exposure. Not too strict, but I think it helps.

Re: No More Google

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Post by Cyberspy »

bntyhntr wrote: post #298
nexuist wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not use Electron? That's managed by Microsoft, not Google.

Electron is based on chromium and I want to give non-chromium based things a fighting chance. It also feels like a memory hog and I like running slack in my browser more than as a separate app. tl;dr nonsensical reasons that don't really stack up but I'm electron free so may as well keep it up

One of the reasons I don't switch to Firefox full time is that it (still, after many years) leaks memory. Use Task Manager to see how much RAM Firefox is using once it's been open a while.

Re: No More Google

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Post by fsflover »

SoSoRoCoCo wrote: post #98
jason0597 wrote: post #34

These anti-Google discussions come and go on the front page of Hacker News, but I'd be curious to know how many people actually degoogle their lives drastically after reading such discussions and articles. I believe it's more of a case of "Oh my god, Google is so disgusting! Shame on Google!", and then people open up a new tab in Chrome to search on Google about their next restaurant destination as if nothing happene…

I've tried and failed. I've been with Gmail since day one and I'm too deep to change every address. It'll never go away. I even use DDG but keep going back to Google & Bing when I'm dissatisfied. Google Drive is better than Duplicity and Carbonite, and way easier than OneDrive. Google Voice has no competition.

> I've been with Gmail since day one and I'm too deep to change every address.

It took many years for me, one service at a time, but now I’m free and it was worth it.

Re: No More Google

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Post by fsflover »

000000Coffee92 wrote: post #172

I question duck duck go. Why am I getting ads everywhere for ddg? How are they honestly making enough money to take up billboards and tons of other ads? Willing to change my mind, something just doesn't add up to me, someone please explain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo#Business_model

Re: No More Google

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Post by npteljes »

pseudoramble wrote: post #326
npteljes wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how close can it get, but ONLYOFFICE products have been good to me so far. AGLPv3, good docx / xlsx compatibility, free for personal and there are paid business plans. They use Google Analytics though, boo.

I've seen ONLYOFFICE used on Nextcloud instances and I haven't seen Google Analytics loaded up. Do they provided a cloud/hosted version that has it? But agreed - I was impressed with ONLYOFFICE.

They have lots of different offerings. I looked at personal.onlyoffice.com, their free hosted version for personal usage, and they load Google Analytics not just on the landing page, but when you open a document as well.

Re: No More Google

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Post by arsenico »

jimmaswell wrote: post #56
redvenom wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there is also a difference between lock in and just using a service. If your primary email is Gmail, it's hard to switch and it's worse than YouTube. With YouTube, if Google decides to lock you out, you can more easily move to PeerTube or another service. I also recommend that if you create content for YouTube, you also upload it elsewhere.

Switching from gmail and forwarding to your new address sounds easy unless you insist on deleting it and changing every account referencing the old email.

Forwarding to a new address doesn’t solve the whole Google problem, as GMail still stores and processes all your emails.

Re: No More Google

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Post by JacobSuperslav »

blunte wrote: post #58

Seeing Notion ranked so highly makes me wonder what other people do that's so different from me. I try to like it (I was an early paid adopter, and now my company uses it so I must too), but there are so many points of friction that most of my effort is spent fighting it rather than using it. Does the general typing latency not bother people? There's a noticeable delay between pressing a key and seeing a character ap…

Notion powers literally 90% of my business productivity. We use it for todos, project management, kanban, wiki, writing, knowledge base, employee onboarding, and more.

I agree it's slow and the mobile apps are terrible. But I haven't found anything better yet.

Re: No More Google

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Post by JacobSuperslav »

jason0597 wrote: post #34

These anti-Google discussions come and go on the front page of Hacker News, but I'd be curious to know how many people actually degoogle their lives drastically after reading such discussions and articles. I believe it's more of a case of "Oh my god, Google is so disgusting! Shame on Google!", and then people open up a new tab in Chrome to search on Google about their next restaurant destination as if nothing happene…

it's literally impossible in my field. I own an SEO agency. Many of the tools I use simply don't work in any other browser than Chrome. it's also not in the realms of possibility to stop using Google Analytics, Adwords, and Google Search Console.

Re: No More Google

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Post by Fnoord »

yellowapple wrote: post #266
jason0597 wrote: post #34

These anti-Google discussions come and go on the front page of Hacker News, but I'd be curious to know how many people actually degoogle their lives drastically after reading such discussions and articles. I believe it's more of a case of "Oh my god, Google is so disgusting! Shame on Google!", and then people open up a new tab in Chrome to search on Google about their next restaurant destination as if nothing happene…

Firefox and DuckDuckGo are my daily drivers, and have been since around the time the Edward Snowden leaks dropped. At one point I was also running a degoogled Android (specifically CopperheadOS), though I've since reverted to using GApps on my current phone for pragmatic reasons. Really, the only Google service I routinely use directly (i.e. other than because some Android app I use requires Google Play Services to f…

The irony is that CopperheadOS officially only runs on... Google Pixel devices. Yes, Google Pixel devices.

If you use something like microG, all it is is a FOSS implementation of Google Play Services. You're still using Google.

I'd like to see Nextcloud become a drop-in replacement for Google Play Services. They already got Contacts, Photo and Storage support; just needs things such as a distributed Play Store and a Search Engine (SearX?).

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