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Re: Google TV

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Post by niklasrde »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #180
ketralnis wrote: post #32

I owned the Logitech Google TV which I bought for about $300 early in its lifespan. After about a year they shipped some really bad updates to it that made it so slow that it was essentially unuseable and removed several key features, and then never shipped another update to it again. Logitech and Google both lost interest in it and after not long all of the apps like Netflix and even Google's own Youtube stopped wor…

As far as I understand, a second generation Apple TV can't even play Youtube videos.

While (I think) it has rudimentary YouTube support, it does not have an AppStore, or any sort of “ecosystem” around it that would need as much maintenance as an Android device or the APLE TVs running fully fledged tvOS these days, so I don’t think it’s an entirely fair comparison. In the UK it doesn’t have iPlayer, which is probably the most popular VoD app after YouTube.

Re: Google TV

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Post by ethbr0 »

ser0 wrote: post #143
crazygringo wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I swear I've read this comment like five times, because you seem to actually know what's going on... but it's left me only more confused. What is a launcher? If Android TV is an OS, then what is a launcher for an OS? And I guess you're as confused as I am as to also what this has to do with the previous Play Movies and TV app.

The same could be said about Apple TV (the device, software) and Apple TV+ (the streaming service).

Apple decided Intel's process naming scheme was a good idea.

Re: Google TV

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Post by t-writescode »

xerxesaa wrote: post #340
Robotbeat wrote: post #216

I think the practice of killing off streaming services and projects that aren't "core" is a huge liability for Google. Why should I invest time and money in a service or product that might be killed off in a few years? We need to reward companies that keep things alive for longer. I got an iPhone recently (over a somewhat cheaper Android) precisely because Apple provides OS updates for longer than any other smartphon…

Fully agree. I paid to purchase hundreds of songs on Google Music and now I have to migrate to Youtube Music which won't let me play those songs without ads and without keeping my phone's screen on unless I pay for a subscription. I already paid to own those songs. Why do I now have to pay a monthly subscription to keep using them? Thanks but no thanks, Google.

Have you spoken with Google's tech support about this? There's actually a support app for YouTube music that I found to be top rate, much, much to my surprise.

They might be able to find a way to satisfy your wants? Maybe download them or similar?

Re: Google TV

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Post by ethbr0 »

fomine3 wrote: post #253
partiallypro wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is somehow worse than Microsoft at naming

Almost no one remembers and it's safe to forget previous Google TV. Meanwhile Xbox Series X/S is confusing and Xbox / Xbox 360 / Xbox One shouldn't be forgotten. So MS is worse for now.

I'm assuming parent was alluding to the "Live!" Windows days, where internet-enabled products suddenly became "{Product} Live!"

Eventually, everything of consequence ended up with the suffix, and they finally dropped it.

But say what you want about Microsoft. Somewhere out there there's a publicly accessible doc describing the naming. And probably a video too. *

* https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-365/partners/videos/micr...

Re: Google TV

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Post by jrockway »

ethbr0 wrote: post #352
ser0 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same could be said about Apple TV (the device, software) and Apple TV+ (the streaming service).

Apple decided Intel's process naming scheme was a good idea.

I came here to make some joke about how Intel renaming the 7980XE to the 9980XE would be like re-releasing the iPhone 5 as an iPhone 7... but then I realized they kind of did that. Even tacked on some sort of "Edition" tag at the end.

Re: Google TV

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Post by qwertox »

aronsa wrote: post #278
gertrunde wrote: post #154

Goodness me, this is an exemplary example of the type of website that I just cannot abide. Style over content, and the presentation just plain getting in the way of the information, to the point that the user ends up leaving rather than finding out what the site is attempting to convey. Awful. Just awful.

I'm on firefox, and the scrolling is jarringly jittery and rough, making it feel like something is broken. Ignoring the lack of useful information, even the aesthetics are broken.

For me even in Chrome.

Also, I wasn't even sure if I should have expected a "Specifications" section, which was the reason for me to scroll all the way down to the end.

Absolutely horrible.

Re: Google TV

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Post by simonkafan »

inoop wrote: post #329
grensley wrote: post #207

Talk about a product with a foot in the grave already. It honestly makes me angry how much human capital was wasted on making this. Everything about this is a UX nightmare, from the scrolljacking site, to the apps-in-apps UI, to the abomination of a remote. This is such a waste.

No kidding. I feel for the engineers who spent sleepless nights getting this to launch ...

Imagine you had to invert a binary tree on a whiteboard just to create something like this...

Re: Google TV

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Post by ikiris »

roneythomas6 wrote: post #60
ketralnis wrote: post #32

I owned the Logitech Google TV which I bought for about $300 early in its lifespan. After about a year they shipped some really bad updates to it that made it so slow that it was essentially unuseable and removed several key features, and then never shipped another update to it again. Logitech and Google both lost interest in it and after not long all of the apps like Netflix and even Google's own Youtube stopped wor…

My Chromecast from 2013 still works.

i feel so sorry for your wireless network. They used an ancient chip that totally soaks airtime.

Re: Google TV

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Post by kristophph »

chaostheory wrote: post #333
jankyxenon wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just bought one. I'm a chromecast user on my main tv (that I control with my phone or nearby google home). I bought this for the remote. There's not really anything to "improve" here. It's a dumb box that aggregates streaming apps. The real differentiator is google assistant (and associated google home ecosystem - if you've bought into that)

I'm interested in Google Home functionality, and I like the Google assistant the most when comparing it to Siri and Alexa. It seems to better process non-generic questions and commands better than the other two. What I'm not keen on is a cheap box that doesn't have enough RAM, so that it'll end up lagging. I don't understand why there isn't a premium model. I also don't want to dangle a weight from my HDMI port. That…

Same for me, I hope it won't be laggy at all and the UI is good to use. So far I like my setup with a chromecast and my phone as the remote/tv library (youtube, netflix, amazon video, disney etc.). I especially like that I can start watching something and at the same time I can browse around for something else to watch.

It looks like the remote has volume buttons on the right side by the way.

Re: Google TV

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Post by qwertox »

88840-8855 wrote: post #323
umvi wrote: post #40

Ok, maybe I'm the only one, but I'm actually excited about this. It appears to be an aggregation service. Instead of individually searching across N platforms for content (hulu, disney+, youtube, crunchyroll, netflix, etc), you can now just use a single app (Google TV) which will allows you to search and stream across all platforms you are subscribed to. Furthermore you can cast stuff directly to chromecast from Goog…

Look. I am not willing to pay for movies and mainstream shows. Why should like me get such aggregation services that require 4 different subscriptions that add up to 600 Euro per year? I never got these aggregation services - and there are already MANY of them. Here in Germany the Telcos are having setup boxes that are more powerful than this Google TV thing as they aggregate subscriptions AND are able to stream live…

My issue with these services is that they enable user profiling.

I have no issues with Amazon (or Netflix, which I don't use) knowing what I stream, but I do have an issue with Vodafone or Telekom knowing which TV channels I'm watching at what time.

That's why I prefer DVB-C.

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