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Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Safari autocomplete on macOS is such a mess. Ever since I switched to DuckDuckGo, I have to give it about two seconds between when I type a word and when I can arrow down into the suggested pages and click enter. Otherwise, when the suggested results from DDG come back the arrow position is reset and I end up tapping enter to go to the wrong page. Didn’t have this issue with google search or chrome.

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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> but I can't reproduce either behavior myself Me neither. manOS Catalina, Version 10.15.5. Safari Version 13.1.1 (15609.2.9.1.2) EDIT: Still can't get used to Safari's URL completion behaviour. It is completely unnatural and hard to feel as useful, unlike chrome's which is very handy and behaves like I expect.

Shh ... Don't give them ideas, or else very soon Safari might be converted to a Chromium based browser as well :P - and that will be the end of browser war forever (yeah, Firefox is giving a tough fight but not in terms of market share).

Well they are already both Webkit and that aspect is the problem (yes I know about Blink vs Webkit, but still).

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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I understand this perspective. I understand why people think that Windows is a hot mess, I has earned that reputation and them some. I haven't had Windows do stupid shit in over two years. Updating it is a habit once in a while, possibly barely more frequently than it forces (unless I hear about a big vulnerability on HN). I'd probably be annoyed if I didn't understand how important updates were and kept postponing t…

Good god, I agree about privacy, but as somebody who does .NET dev for her day job, how did you get rid of the annoyances? Some of these are little stuff but, off the top of my head: I can't understand the different between these smart "locations" and folders in explorer (documents vs my documents, why everything is under desktop in some file pickers, why C:\ is so hard to get to these days) even after using windows…

Use Classic Start. I get it through Ninite. It's perfect.

Shift-delete removes the recycle bin portion. If you access the recycle bin as infrequently as most people (read: only when the drive complains about space), you won't really be concerned about an extra confirmation.

Smart locations are pretty frustrating but I don't remember the last time they weren't just folders under the user directory, similar to MacOS and Linux. My Documents is a legacy shim, Simba. You must never go there.

I think the UI conventions thing is a matter of personal preference. I really like applications that use a UI convention that suits the application. PowerPoint and Google Chrome are different apps for different purposes, so they should have different UIs.

The Settings app/Control Panel is unforgivably broken. That said, if you search for what you want in the start menu, it's usually pretty good at finding it. But yeah, the ODBC driver connection dialog from 3.1 is still in there somewhere.

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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This has been driving me mad for the better part of a year: the autocomplete behavior in Safari is totally broken. Last year it started picking words from your query and going through your history and using that to autocomplete so you'd always go to some random thing from your history that's barely relevant even for the most generic search terms (if I type "ptrace" I want to go to a web search, not some random Stack…

Posting reply here for more visibility. Folks who can reproduce the "sketch" --> "sketchers.com" behavior or the "realty.com" --> "realtor.com" behavior, would any of you be willing to file the issue via Feedback Assistant (only needs a free developer.apple.com account) with a sysdiagnose and a screen recording? Then give me the FB number. I can get the Safari team to look at this, but I can't reproduce either behavi…

I was able to stop this behavior by deactivating options in Settings > Siri & Search > Safari.

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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This has been driving me mad for the better part of a year: the autocomplete behavior in Safari is totally broken. Last year it started picking words from your query and going through your history and using that to autocomplete so you'd always go to some random thing from your history that's barely relevant even for the most generic search terms (if I type "ptrace" I want to go to a web search, not some random Stack…

> the autocomplete behavior in Safari is totally broken. I'm looking for a genuine honest answer here, this really isn't rhetorical. Every second thread regarding Apple seems to have top comments complaining about the quality of what Apple has become. The first I recall was the butterfly keyboard fiasco, then some others, then El Capitan and Big Sur bugs, then this. Again, I really want to understand this: why the co…

My boss wants only Apple stuff in the company. Despite working with it for 12 years, I still hate the macOS UX. The hardware isn't bad and even looks aesthetically pleasing, but looks aren't something I find important in a computer. The UI too, looks nice, but personally I find there are some annoyances that make it cumbersome and counterproductive to use to the point where I've taken to do any serious work by remoting into Windows and Linux machines. With one exception (inserting a network cable into my Mac is the fastest way to reboot it - instant kernel panic, a known bug that was reported to Apple about 10 years ago and is still unresolved), none of the things I hate about macOS are bugs... they are all working as designed with some of them even touted as important features by Apple. A few of them I could work around - I've spent some serious money on simple utilities that make the OS usable to me - but others remain daily annoyances. If given half the chance, I'll drop Apple's software like a brick and never look back.

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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This has been driving me mad for the better part of a year: the autocomplete behavior in Safari is totally broken. Last year it started picking words from your query and going through your history and using that to autocomplete so you'd always go to some random thing from your history that's barely relevant even for the most generic search terms (if I type "ptrace" I want to go to a web search, not some random Stack…

Posting reply here for more visibility. Folks who can reproduce the "sketch" --> "sketchers.com" behavior or the "realty.com" --> "realtor.com" behavior, would any of you be willing to file the issue via Feedback Assistant (only needs a free developer.apple.com account) with a sysdiagnose and a screen recording? Then give me the FB number. I can get the Safari team to look at this, but I can't reproduce either behavi…

Yes, you’re right, I did neglect to actually put a specific search term that was doing this for me. That was almost a year ago so I can’t completely remember why I didn’t, but I think it had to do with it being history-specific so I didn’t really think it would be all that helpful for reproducing the issue. Still, my mistake, and if it helps I think that I took that sysdiagnose right after reproducing that issue. As for the other bug: according to my history I first hit that on the 16th on my iPad. I didn’t file it at that point because 1. we don’t have tap-to-Radar so I’m a bit lazier about filing bugs when I’m not at my computer and 2. submitting bugs for something you saw once the week before WWDC is a surefire way to get it ignored.

Speaking of that, I’d just like to say one more thing on this topic while I still have your attention here. While the things I mentioned here could have been filed a bit better, aside from that I really do try my best to report things I find, often in great detail and depth that I specifically take time out of my day for. I run Safari Technology Preview ten hours a day, every day, on whatever the latest developer beta is. (Yes, I’m running Big Sur and using yesterday’s build.) I think Safari is a great browser; I know everyone on the team is passionate and cares about making it better, and I’m sure they’d be disappointed to hear that I’m going around calling some part of it “totally broken” on a reasonably sized social website and that my experience is clearly shared by many of the people here.

But the usual Apple complaint still applies here: they need to be more responsive to reports, and yes they need to actually fix their stuff. I know this is not your team, and that you probably don’t have much control over this, but you’re surely in contact with them often and I’d appreciate it if you could remind them. I have filed literally dozens of Safari bugs in the last few years. It’s probably the component I file bugs against the most because I use it so much and because I care very much that it works right. But it’s disheartening to see maybe half of them getting any response at all, and of those just a couple with actual responses that are not just “please attach a sysdiagnose” or “this bug has been marked as a duplicate”. It’s disheartening to find bugs in Safari Technology Preview running on a developer seed and have them be ignored as they slowly make their way into public beta Safari and then into an official release where other people run into it. It’s disheartening when I can go a month without being able to launch Safari Technology Preview with it crashing immediately until I literally take a binary diff of Safari.framework, disassemble it, and find the exact change made and the circumstances that made it crash, and highlight it in a red circle along with a suggested patch to get it fixed correctly (Safari Technology Preview releases 37 and 38, rdar://problem/33815640, rdar://problem/34167199). More recently I was having crashes every two hours-or under load, even more frequently-because of something which I will bet you $10 is a data race in Safari’s Remote Web Inspector Lockdown code (this has stopped crashing but now causes an infinite loop, and I’ve become accustomed to attaching a debugger to Safari, breaking in the offending code, and suspending the lockdown queue from there; FB7660529). When you put out these prerelease builds and I take the time and effort to use them and file issues about them, I think the least I can expect is the bugs actually being fixed or barring even that just some acknowledgement of the issue. Thanks.

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Please remind me not to work where you do.

How about a reminder to not work where you do? Unless you’re running the company, and you’re the only employee, your work internet usage is being monitored and logged at some level. Believing otherwise is giving your employer a very generous benefit of the doubt, let’s say, but still probably naive. It’s worth understanding why all companies might be required by law to monitor, or short of that, be incentivized to mo…

Disclosure: UK business owner and employer but no US employees. For us here at least, there’s no such requirement to betray the trust of our staff and spy on them, and we don’t do so. To be honest, the idea that anyone might consider this an acceptable behaviour never occurred to me. I’d like to think this is the norm but have no data either way.

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Posting reply here for more visibility. Folks who can reproduce the "sketch" --> "sketchers.com" behavior or the "realty.com" --> "realtor.com" behavior, would any of you be willing to file the issue via Feedback Assistant (only needs a free developer.apple.com account) with a sysdiagnose and a screen recording? Then give me the FB number. I can get the Safari team to look at this, but I can't reproduce either behavi…

Yes, you’re right, I did neglect to actually put a specific search term that was doing this for me. That was almost a year ago so I can’t completely remember why I didn’t, but I think it had to do with it being history-specific so I didn’t really think it would be all that helpful for reproducing the issue. Still, my mistake, and if it helps I think that I took that sysdiagnose right after reproducing that issue. As…

Thanks for the feedback. I agree that communication about bugs could be better. Still would appreciate an FB# for any weird autocompletes you experience.
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