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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by mrweasel »

DangerousPie wrote: post #186
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

FWIW I thought I would miss TouchID for a long time until I finally bought a new iPhone and realised that FaceID actually worked much better than I expected. Yes there are some occasions where it doesn't work well (when you're trying to unlock the phone without looking at it properly) but there are also many occasions where it works much better. Most of the time my phone now unlocks so smoothly that I don't even real…

To me FaceID makes zero sense. The majority of times I unlock my phone when it’s laying flat on the tabel and away from me. I typically don’t pick up my phone to read a message, so FaceID will require me to move my entire face and upper body to unlock the phone. This is also why I don’t get the point of having the fingerprint reader on the back like many Android phones.

I wouldn’t argue that Apple drop FaceID, but at least put the fingerprint censor back, so we can choose between ToucID or FaceID. I believe that many would choose TouchID.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by graeme »

Quick comment about sizes and popularity. This is the size of the iPhone 6/6S/7/8 form factor. There are a LOT of iPhone models of this type.

They're bigger than the old SE, but effectively a fair bit smaller than the X/XS/11 Pro format, which has a much larger screen to manage.

So, this phone gives those of us who liked the 8 body size an upgrade path.

David Smith compiled iPhone usage stats for his app. The iPhone 6/6S/7/8 had 47% share. The iPhone 5s/old SE had 11% share. The X/XS/11 Pro size had 12% share. So, this new SE is an extremely common and and popular design.

https://david-smith.org/blog/2019/06/24/the-popularity-of-th...

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by [deleted] »

zionic wrote: post #231
sn_master wrote: post #112

I use Pixel 4, and I absolutely hate not having a fingerprint sensor. Cons: * At night it doesn't work, because I am laying on the bed and half my face is covered. * It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses. Annoying when I have just woken up or going to bed and want to check a quick notification. * Sometimes it unlocks by itself even if I don't want it to. For the headphone jack, I got a cheap USB-C ones and…

FaceID is so terrible. It's hard to imagine a company based out of sunny California invented an authentication system that requires you to remove your sunglasses. It also sucks in any bright environment like say... the beach. Which they don't have much of in California of course. When the ambient IR is too high the sensor can't see it's own tracking dots on your face so it can't build the 3D mesh to authenticate you.…

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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Keverw »

shorts_theory wrote: post #328
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

I would probably upgrade just for the battery. iOS 13 is very smooth on my SE but the battery is just nuked without battery saver on all the time.

Have you checked the battery health/cycles? Mine was like that, even iOS at once unexpectedly shutdown...

The battery page in settings, under Battery Health should tell your capacity and other info. for me a new battery fixed everything... and batteries aren't usually covered under warranty as far as I know in general but Apple replaced it for me. FedEx Overnighted it to their repair center in California, and then back. So only without a phone for a few days. Kinda like a brand new phone just by changing the battery.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by parsimo2010 »

skrebbel wrote: post #175
parsimo2010 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new iPhone 12 Pro is supposed to have a smaller screen than the 11 Pro and have squared sides, which basically means it will be shaped like the original SE, have a full screen, and the best cameras. Except for the price, the exact phone you want will probably be out later this year.

> shaped like the original SE But bigger, right?

Yes, but it will be smaller than the 6/7/8 line. The overall dimensions haven’t been leaked, but a 5.4” screen is 93% the size of the 5.8” on the 11 Pro. If we scale the outer dimensions by the same amount, the 12 Pro should be 133.8x66.4 mm, which is in between the original SE and the 6/7/8 lineup.

Edit: after re-reading the leaks, it seems like the vanilla 12 is getting the smaller screen and not the Pro. So maybe we won’t have a smaller phone with square sides.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by mciancia »

danso wrote: post #344
bluedevil2k wrote: post #2

An upgraded iPhone 8 with a starting storage of 64 Gb at only $399. Seems like a great deal. Makes me seriously consider this model for my next phone instead of spending $1200 on an iPhone 11 Max.

Yeah, I priced out the 256GB model and saw that it was $299, if I were to trade in my 8+. I reflexively assumed the store had an error and reloaded the page. Can't remember the last time I've seen a new Apple device priced at <$300 (iPod nano?)

It's _not_ priced < 300USD since you have to give in your old iphone which still has some value

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by FireBeyond »

WoahNoun wrote: post #174
sn_master wrote: post #112

I use Pixel 4, and I absolutely hate not having a fingerprint sensor. Cons: * At night it doesn't work, because I am laying on the bed and half my face is covered. * It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses. Annoying when I have just woken up or going to bed and want to check a quick notification. * Sometimes it unlocks by itself even if I don't want it to. For the headphone jack, I got a cheap USB-C ones and…

My current biggest problem with FaceID is that it doesn't work when I'm wearing a mask. Which is pretty much anytime I'm outside right now. Never had an issue with glasses though.

I trained an Alternate Appearance with my mask on.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by joshgachnang »

tobtoh wrote: post #212
sn_master wrote: post #112

I use Pixel 4, and I absolutely hate not having a fingerprint sensor. Cons: * At night it doesn't work, because I am laying on the bed and half my face is covered. * It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses. Annoying when I have just woken up or going to bed and want to check a quick notification. * Sometimes it unlocks by itself even if I don't want it to. For the headphone jack, I got a cheap USB-C ones and…

> It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses Are you holding the phone too close to your face? I was getting frustrated that FaceID wouldn't work for me in bed when I wasn't wearing glasses, but I discovered it was because it was holding it so close to my face to read the screen (I'm very short sighted) and the camera couldn't focus (yes my eyesight is that bad haha).

Yup, it took me a few months to realize this. In the morning when I need to unlock something, I have to double the distance between my face and the phone for FaceID to work.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by mwest217 »

threepio wrote: post #133
threepio wrote: post #33

"Popular design"? On the contrary. As an iPhone SE owner, this is exactly the form factor that fans of the iPhone 4/5 series (like me) rejected as being too large.

The most perplexing part has always been the positioning of the SE as the low-price iPhone. As an SE fan, I would happily, HAPPILY pay $1000 every two years to keep getting upgraded internals in the current form factor. Yes Apple, I'm sure it's harder to fit those parts in a smaller case. That's why you should charge me more! It's not a matter of Ludditry. That form factor is ergonomically ideal for a certain kind of…

Exactly. I'd pay more for a small phone than for the current monstrous flagships.
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