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Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by WhiteAussie »

MrRadar wrote: post #333
lghh wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if there is a market for a Reddit alternative that is somehow treads the line between being a cesspool like that one site that tried to replace Reddit when they banned a lot of fascist stuff was and that other site that infantilized everyone. Is there a middle ground? I feel like treading it would be useful.

Any "Reddit alternative" will have a hard time gathering users as long as Reddit exists (and doesn't alienate a critical mass of their users ala Digg). Dan Olson of the YouTube channel Folding Ideas made a very insightful video about the problem of setting up "alternatives" to popular social media platforms (having lived through several painful platform transitions himself): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3snVCRo_b…

Isn't that, in itself, a unique and valuable feature? An established player that becomes highly censorious creates the market for a newcomer offering an explicitly free-speech-oriented alternative. I personally value that very highly.

I'd remind you too that a lot of people - including myself - don't see this "toxic" dynamic the way you apparently do. Our stomachs might turn at the sight of much of what is on reddit nowadays just as yours might when you see the front page of Voat.

Maybe userbases are generally dividing as we seek providers with which we are more politically aligned, with decreasing focus on the bells and whistles they have on offer. That's their value.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by thiagomgd »

choward wrote: post #320
TheHypnotist wrote: post #63

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The app is clean. I can't even look at the actual website now.

There is absolutely no reason the website shouldn't also be clean. The only reason not to have a good website sure is to lure people to use the app. It's a shady tactic that many companies use because people like you will just download the app, no questions asked.

install the app, give all the permissions they ask, etc... :(

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by Starkus »

mrlala wrote: post #339
Starkus wrote: post #329

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Classic, well thought out response. lol...

What's the point in actually debating with you? You condone how r/the_donald behaves, so you are beyond help from an internet stranger.

Well... by first trying to point out a little ignorance coming from your comment. Second, maybe add in some hypocrisy from your comment. Third, it is really not about how a community 'behaves' because that is beside the initial point of you advocating for censorship based on political opinions when you're referencing Reddit.

That community does not directly behave in violence, hate, etc. How ridiculous of you to make that assertion. You're likely buying into the bullshit about the excuse Reddit made to censor them to begin with..."Anti police rhetoric" ...it is laughable that you're buying that.

End of story: Political Censorship

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by Rebelgecko »

kibwen wrote: post #269
XaspR8d wrote: post #180

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> As for the reddit site itself I wonder what is the ratio of old.reddit viewers vs reddit viewers are. I moderate a top 100 sub and if the built-in stats are to be believed, the recent breakdown is something like: = Pageviews = 40% apps 28% old reddit 17% mobile reddit 15% new reddit = Unique visits = 41% mobile reddit 27% new reddit 24% apps 8% old reddit This doesn't really capture the ratio of contributors who us…

I moderate a rather popular programming subreddit (whose users you would expect to be more conscious of newreddit vs oldreddit), here's the eyeballed breakdown of our stats: --- Monthly uniques (200k total): New Reddit: 55% Mobile Web: 20% Reddit Apps: 15% Old Reddit: 10% --- Monthly Pageviews (3M total): New Reddit: 30% Mobile Web: 10% Reddit Apps: 30% Old Reddit: 30% So in our case, while the ones using Old Reddit…

I wonder how many of those "new reddit" hits are unintentional (like someone who doesn't want to log into reddit on their work computer, so the setting for "old" reddit doesn't stick)

Edit: Just for comparison, I moderate a medium sized sports subreddit. Traffic waxes and wanes a bit based on when games happen, the memeability of recent events, and the activities of Donald Trump. We see a lot more app traffic, and new reddit is about as rare as people using mobile browsers.

Our ~416k page views are distributed like this:

Apps: 62%

Mobile browsers: 7%

Old reddit: 25%

New reddit: 6%

For a month of uniques (48k):

Apps: 54%

Mobile browsers: 12%

Old reddit: 21%

New reddit: 12%

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by busymom0 »

jimbokun wrote: post #184
jermaustin1 wrote: post #106

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Paying staff? Hosting costs? Recouping money for the time they spent on it?

They could have followed the Craig's List model of monetizing just enough to cover all the costs and keep the site running, without overly focusing on revenue growth sacrificing what made the site great in the first place.

Doesn't reddit get a lot more traffic than craigslist though? Also craiglist I believe is not a global site?

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by BlueTemplar »

jandrese wrote: post #167
BlueTemplar wrote: post #125

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There are some things on Reddit that I thankfully rarely experience, but that drive me absolutely mad when I do : automatic thread locking after some time and shadow bans. Both of these violate netiquette! As a reminder, proper netiquette is to necropost instead of creating a duplicate thread. And shadow banning is not a tool that most moderators should even have, and should only be used against the most horrible tro…

I'm not sure I agree about necroposting. I find it tends to increase the noise level more than simply creating a new thread about the topic in some cases, as people see a post with tons of comments and don't realize that many of those comments are out of date and no longer accurate/relevant. There's obviously a line to draw somewhere. You don't want 50 posts on the same topic clogging the top of the feed, but zombie…

And completely unreasonable to me. Even on reddit the cutoff is... 6 months ? People not realizing that it's a necropost is either a failure of the poster not declaring it as such, or of the forum software - see how Discourse auto-highlights necroposting !

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by BlueTemplar »

thewelder wrote: post #350
thomascgalvin wrote: post #172

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Reddit has completely replaced Slashdot for me. I wonder what's going to replace Reddit...

for me it went: slashdot-->digg-->reddit-->[?]

-->hackernews

But as already pointed out, not everyone on reddit would go here...

(P.S.: For my part, I skipped Digg.)

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by callmeal »

jermaustin1 wrote: post #106
WhompingWindows wrote: post #100

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I wish Reddit had gone the way of VLC -- keep your core product, the thing people liked, and stop chasing profits. Why do so many of these companies fall to the profit motive and lose their "soul"?

Paying staff? Hosting costs? Recouping money for the time they spent on it?

You forgot to add: "increasing management bonuses"

/snark since it's mostly invisible on the internet.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by Izkata »

Pigo wrote: post #151
basch wrote: post #109

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Facebook was always lame, it was a utilitarian communication tool. It's like calling hammers or wall calendars or trash bags lame. It's similar to the argument you here when people say "they youth arent into facebook anymore, now they use xxxx." That's nice and all, but as long as they get facebook when they graduate high school or go to college, facebook wins. It doesnt need to be hip and cool if its the network glu…

I was on Facebook back when you had to have a college email to be on it. It was were you could go to find out the name of that cute girl in class. It was also when social media was still a new concept. MySpace was a much bigger deal at the time, but Facebook was the first place where I could meet people my age nearby, organize a party, find out what was happening around campus. I have not doubt Facebook will continue…

One of the best features of that era was the network pages - your college email gave you access to an area solely for your college, where events could be organized, had a posting board, I think its own gallery, etc. When it went public-access this was among the first things to go, replaced with the more generic groups.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by technoplato »

crankylinuxuser wrote: post #43
nyolfen wrote: post #36

reddit should be a protocol

It was. It's called Usenet. And Usenet even included posting a single message to multiple groups, and people from both can respond.

We’re there ever attempts to skin Usenet with friendly interfaces like old reddit?

Any resources you can point me to? I’m really interested in these concepts.

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