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Re: Facebook Dating

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> it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It seems like a mistake. If you have one persona, that means…

It wouldnt be as big a deal, had facebook started as your "public" identity, like linkedin. But instead everybody who signed up 10 years ago was using it as their "private identity with a couple friends."

I'm glad it's not just me. I've pretty much abandoned my facebook account because it's full of all my stupid high school personal stuff, and doesn't really feel relevant any more.

Yesterday a colleague had me link a third-party application to a business-related page using my personal account, and it felt like a huge invasion of my personal sphere to have pages for a band I was in ten years ago appear on the list next to the business' pages. (Not to mention giving this third party access to all of my personal information in order to allow it to help manage a few public pages.)

Do social media workers have some kind of strategy for managing their public and private identities? I'm considering creating an alternate account just for business pages, but that seems a bit disingenuous to me.

Re: Facebook Dating

#353

I think this might be a (relatively) rare strategy error for Facebook. If the success of Snapchat, LinkedIn, and also the separate WhatsApp/Instagram properties proves anything, it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large. If I was facebook, I would very explicitly announce this as a spin out project, under a diff…

> it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It seems like a mistake. If you have one persona, that means…

Being in silicon valley, I don't think the single persona thing is something that tech people like at all, but rather something unique to facebook or more specifically zuck and his fans.

We might recognize that the internet never forgets and just don't put much out there, but that is a bit different than embracing a single persona life.

Re: Facebook Dating

#354

I think this might be a (relatively) rare strategy error for Facebook. If the success of Snapchat, LinkedIn, and also the separate WhatsApp/Instagram properties proves anything, it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large. If I was facebook, I would very explicitly announce this as a spin out project, under a diff…

> it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It seems like a mistake. If you have one persona, that means…

> I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone.

How is that Facebook's goal? Considering the available per-post privacy settings and all, I feel like it facilitates having a different persona to different people.

> To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want.

I feel like "one persona to everyone" is almost the cultural opposite of Silicon Valley. Like at every birthday party you go to, every person asks "How's your startup going?", it seems that the cultural norm is you're supposed to say "It's going fantastic, how's your startup?" except if they are a close friend, when you say the truth.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Okay, try putting "Card-carrying gun owner and anti-abortion activist" on your resume and apply for big tech companies. Or hell, even start a personal blog using your real name talking about opinions that are anathema to coastal dwellers. Watch your callback rate dramatically decline. I grew up in a suburb of a conservative state, and I learned early on when to show "who I am and what I really believe" and when to be…

I work for a big tech company and I can guarantee you that it will not count against you. Some of my very successful friends and people I look up to come from conservative backgrounds and are outspoken about it. That being said you need to be respectful of everyone, regardless of their religion, ethnicity, gender identification etc. I think it is very possible to do that and still be a strong conservative.

Bullshit. You can be as conservative as you want as long as you remain silent and not protest anything at all that the diversity and inclusivity mob proposes. One word against that crowd in a SV tech company and you are dead in every sense of the word except physically.

That is the power dynamic of our times and hence why the need for dual personas.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It seems like a mistake. If you have one persona, that means…

> I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. I'm from Seattle so I'm not knee deep in that, but I just don't understand how someone can actually have one persona that they represent to the world. Different situations have different requirements and norms.…

I only have a single, global persona. It's why my username for various sites is either 'dana' (my first name) or 'diederich' (my last name), with very few exceptions.

I've been using the Internet almost daily since 1988, and for the first 8 or 9 years, I embraced being pseudo-anonymous. I really can't say why, it was just what everybody was doing. If all of the online activity of all of my different personas was mixed in public, it would have been no big deal.

Having said that, I understand and respect that, I presume, most people need to be able to maintain different personas.

> You're going to have to act differently in different situations.

While I certainly don't say exactly the same kinds of things to everyone, everywhere, I do generally act the same in every situation.

And I think that's kind of unusual.

Feel free to ask any clarifying questions if you like.

Re: Facebook Dating

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> I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. Indeed. I live in a muslim country and here everyone uses dual-sim phones with 2 sims for the sole purpose of having 2 accounts at everything: one for the conservative part of the family, another for the modern…

This is true for security reasons too, i don't want to give my 2FA number to anyone or any website that i will use only once in a while

2FA by phone should be dead. SMS is insecure and I've deprecated it for all forms of communication with me. I use virtual numbers for all websites and banks that have stupid forced phone 2FA, including Facebook.

Re: Facebook Dating

#360

"If your crush isn’t on Dating, doesn’t create a Secret Crush list, or doesn’t put you on their list — then no one will know that you’ve entered their name." I'm looking forward to watching the shitstorm when that info gets leaked or an exploit is found that allows you to see whose lists you're on.

Just put all your friends on the list, that should allow you to see everyone who put you on their list.

But that strategy has the same drawbacks of swiping right on every friend you recognize on Tinder "because of course I'd swipe right, we're friends!" It always leaves the other friend wondering if maybe there was any meaning in your right-swipe.
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