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Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by yyyk »

luckylion wrote: post #345
yyyk wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, the mullahs are really upset that US prevented their arch-enemy Saddam from conquering another country and getting stronger. Now, I wouldn't say "all islamic religious hardliners in charge of a country hate the US", but it sure is common.

My point was that Saddam was acting with US support when he attacked Iran in the first gulf war in the early eighties, back before he got himself on the bad-dictator-list by invading Kuwait.

US did not support the initial invasion, and in fact allowed Israel to supply arms to Iran (!) to stop it. US support for Iraq came later when Iran continued the war after throwing off the Iraqis, because they didn't want to let Iran continue into Iraq.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by flyinglizard »

codebolt wrote: post #328
flyinglizard wrote: post #294

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US promotes values I am interested in, while Iran promotes what to me seems like a nightmare. Those who are interested in the Iranian end goal should be supporting Iran, but then I have to wonder why Western people would be promoting the Iranian stance. It does not seem self serving.

Quick question: Is there any action taken by the Israeli government or military in the past 20 years that you feel is worthy of criticism?

Obviously, although I suspect some of my criticism of them and what you mean by “criticism” will be radically different.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by mpoloton »

simonh wrote: post #349
mpoloton wrote: post #332

Definition of terrorism according to Wikipedia: "Terrorism is, in the broadest sense, the use of intentionally indiscriminate violence as a means to create terror among masses of people; or fear to achieve a religious or political aim." How economic sanctions and maximum pressure different from terrorism? Putting a lot of pressure and pain on ordinary people to achieve political goal, which in this case is surrender…

It depends what you mean by surrender of Iran. Iran is the one with an explicitly stated foreign policy goal of annihilating another state. They are also persistently taking active steps intended to achieve it. That inevitably creates conflict, and in armed conflicts nobody ends up looking good.

What they mean by negotiation is sever limit on Iran missile program. They ask Iran to limit its missile range very considerably. At first you may say missile is not defensive but offensive.

But the fact is that Iran has no air force or any other serious military hardware to defend itself. Because simply they wouldn't sell them to Iran. Most Persian gulf countries have military budget per capita orders of magnitude larger than Iran. In addition they have the might of US military behind them. Missiles are the only reason that Iran is not like Iraq or Libya right now. Iran has been on the hit list of Neocons since long time (you can refer to General Wesley Clark)

Iran experienced a very bloody war with Iraq during 80s where everybody was supporting Saddam Hussein from Soviets to the US and persian gulf monarchies. I know personally people that where harmed by Saddam chemical weapons but international community remained silent for too long. I remember seeing Saddam's missile on the Tehran skies but we had no means of stopping them or retaliating because again nobody cared.

About annihilating another state: How can Iran annihilate a state which has 200 nuclear warheads? It might be other way around.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by issam01 »

avocado4 wrote: post #151
smnrchrds wrote: post #6

Dear devs, Please stop using Google Cloud Platform to host your projects. GCP blocks Iran, so by hosting any part of the app on GCP, your apps become impossible to access from Iran. Azure and AWS do not do this. This form of blocking is exclusive to GCP. After the switch to GCP, Iranians lost access to gitlab. Firefox Monitor is blocked in Iran for the same reason. The list goes on and on. I don't believe Mozilla tea…

Iran is sending oil to dictatorship which gasses children, changing our business strategy to appease the barbaric regime is not a priority for us.

Iran was sending this oil to us, the Syrian people, the "regime" was willing to start the winter oil supplies to the poor Syrian families on the next month, now the oil has been stolen by the GREAT DEMOCRATIC UK, and we will face the cold winter without oil, thanks to the new pirates of the Mediterranean.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by PMan74 »

saiya-jin wrote: post #305
kweks wrote: post #273

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Most of the comments below you are correct in the scope of the last 10 years, but in the context of the last 50 are absurd. For those curious about how and where the whole "Iran thing" started: A freely elected Iranian president decided to nationalise oil fields. This irked British Petroleum (Anglo-Iranian Oil Company at the time..) and the USA, so they initiated a coup to overthow the government [1], complete with C…

Travelling in Iran is amazing experience - completely unspoiled from tourism, amazing history left and right, very warm and welcoming people, almost everybody speaks OK english (and most signs are dual farsi/english). For an experienced travelers / backpackers, this is one of the best places to experience these days. Btw one addition - we all know that US embassy was stormed and employees held hostage in 1979. It gav…

> very warm and welcoming people

I'd second this, one of the friendliest country I've ever been to. No significant tourist industry yet so most people are not trying to sell you anything. I think it's a genuine wish to be friendly to travellers and especially so given they don't yet get many travellers.

You're somewhat curtailed as a US traveller (not sure if that's still the case) but for anybody else, go.

One tech curiosity from over there: one guy said he used a USB stick that contained his browser and stored his internet history on the stick when in internet cafes (his only way online). That way when the cafe was audited none of his data would be there for inspection by police/security.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by hrmon »

flyinglizard wrote: post #250

I’m always caught by surprise when I see intelligent, educated people ignore the nature and actions of Iran to justify their adversarial feelings towards the US administration. Iran is on an unprecedented aggressive and violent push towards dominating the Middle East. They are deployed in Syria, building forward bases to threaten Israel, destabilize Lebanon and pushing it closer to another war with Israel by funding…

The cause of all conflicts in Middle East is Israel.

Iran in Iraq and Syria? While US was happy with the rise of ISIS (you remember that? if no ask a Parisian) Iran was the one who fought it beside Iraq and Syria governments.

Iran supporting Hezbollah? You suggest some other way to resist against Israel's expansionism. Not just Hezbollah, all of the Lebanon is against Israel.

Yemen? I think the role of the aggressor and infanticide regime of Saudi Arabia is obvious now.

Argentina? https://www.thenation.com/article/bushs-iranargentina-terror...

Europe? Oh, he has been a kind host for terrorist groups like MEK for years.

Bullying Gulf states? It only reminds me of Saudi Arabia bullying Qatar. You have anything else in your mind?

Missiles? Iran learned from Iraq invasion the only one he can rely on for support is himself. At that time Western countries were busy selling chemical weapons to Ba'athist government, the invader.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by TeMPOraL »

saiya-jin wrote: post #310
PunchTornado wrote: post #301

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we suggest them to overturn their government, start a revolution.

Well that's the most dumb comment I've seen here for some time. you realize that most revolution end up in millions dead, having a new generation of dictators at the helm and little changed for the better, compared to a lot changed for the worse? But yeah its a sure way to give proper fundamentalists a good chance to rule.

See also: the Arab Spring.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by TeMPOraL »

Muromec wrote: post #269
r3bl wrote: post #264

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Because sanctions (on the Internet) will radicalize younger people. Iran happens to have an abundance of them: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Ir... If you want to help them, you don't do so by cutting them access to the information. Iran is not a dictatorship, it's a theocracy. Like literally everywhere else, the more people are educated, the less likely they are to let religion govern thei…

>If you want to help them, you don't do so by cutting them access to the information Worked wonders with Russia, right? At least those young people could use foss to better target artillery strikes in Eastern Ukraine to pay off their mortage.

Criticizing soldiers for fighting effectively?

Also, how much of that FOSS was written by Russians anyway? It's not a nation with a math or programming talent shortage.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by daliusd »

entropy_ wrote: post #281
daliusd wrote: post #172

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I doubt that they use Tor. First Iranian I have talked with after airport security simply shown as VPN app to use that works. I have used SSH tunnel without problems. Censorship is quite weak in Iran and Tor is not necessary.

It's only weak if you have access to a credit card and are able to pay for a VPS or VPN abroad. If you're trying to bypass it using only free(as in beer) tools, it's quite effective as clearly shown by the article.

I was answering to Iv comment that people in Iran will find Tor. That's not the case from my experience while I was traveling in Iran last year. People simply use free VPNs.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by kweks »

cm2187 wrote: post #339
kweks wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the comments below you are correct in the scope of the last 10 years, but in the context of the last 50 are absurd. For those curious about how and where the whole "Iran thing" started: A freely elected Iranian president decided to nationalise oil fields. This irked British Petroleum (Anglo-Iranian Oil Company at the time..) and the USA, so they initiated a coup to overthow the government [1], complete with C…

And not mentioning islamism once in your post....

Check out the last sentence. In the context of Persian culture, Islam was forcefully introduced in the 650's. Iranian culture dates to 4500BC. From my experience (been through Iran 5 times..) - Islam seems to play a very minor / non-existant role in the majority of people's lives.

Naturally there's variation on this (Tehran vs. Qu'om / Mashaad) - but at least that was my experience from living and speaking.

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