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Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by lapnitnelav »

dheera wrote: post #89
com2kid wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The flip side of this is that the cookbooks rarely have super niche recipes. Even some of the highest rated "authentic" cookbooks have the flavor level tuned way down to be more "suitable for American tastes". The best cooking tutorials are barely translated Youtube videos. Or even better, recipes going through Google Translate. (Or get a multi-lingual friend... :) ) Cook's Illustrated also does some 100% legit inter…

> The best cooking tutorials are barely translated Youtube videos. Yeah I love those. The "random grandma with a gopro" tutorials always work, modulo language barrier. The video editing is crap and you sometimes have to keep fast forwarding while stuff is cooking but the recipes are good.

I don't know why but I find it really relaxing to watch those kinds of cooking video with a slower pace.

It's good to slow down and enjoy those fairly simple things.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by SerLava »

mythrwy wrote: post #139
lostctown wrote: post #121

I append "reddit" to any query not meant for a productive task. Except now the internet is mostly reddit for me, which kinda bums me out. Especially given the new js-heavy design. In 2019, if I want reliable search about something I know nothing about I must first search on google, then try again with "reddit" appended, then change www.reddit.com to old.reddit.com, then parse through what are often questionable answe…

Am I the only one who thinks Reddit really sucks? It's a cesspool of kiddie memes, shock, ill informed opinion and political posturing. Besides, if I wanted to search Reddit I'd go to Reddit. It being front page for _everything_ I search for now is so annoying.

The people here aren't talking about finding a meme that contains words in their search.

Reddit is simply the largest site that disincentivises content-for-contents sake. When you find someone asking a complex question, the person answering it does it because they have a real answer- not because they can make some money by googling the answer and rewording it. That's what the rest of Google's content often devolves to. For certain topics.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by mindcrime »

reaperducer wrote: post #305
ajmurmann wrote: post #162

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What I don't understand is why Google doesn't hell ban these pages. It seems trivial, at least as a human, to detect them. You don't even need to do this for all of them. Just banning a few hundred will deter everyone else.

What I don't understand is why Google doesn't hell ban these pages Because Google doesn't have a financial incentive to show you quick, quality answers to you questions. Google makes more money from you flailing around and fruitlessly searching over and over than giving you the right answer the first time.

Google makes more money from you flailing around and fruitlessly searching over and over than giving you the right answer the first time.

That will work right up until the time somebody comes along and build a search engine (or other app) that will just "give you the right answer the first time."

For all their size and power, there's really nothing - in principle - stopping somebody from coming along and doing to Google, what Google did to Altavista. Yes it would be hard to execute, which may be why it hasn't happened... yet.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by Avamander »

avip wrote: post #247
caiocaiocaio wrote: post #14

Google any recipe, and there are at least 5 paragraphs (usually a lot more) of copy that no one will ever read, and isn't even meant for human consumption. Google "How to learn x", and you'll usually get copy written by people who know nothing about the subject, and maybe browsed Amazon for 30 minutes as research. Real, useful results that used to be the norm for Google are becoming more and more rare as time goes by…

Try google something like "how to do X on Y" or "what's the shortcut key for A in B". You have to crawl through piles of garbage like a racoon to find the one-liner you were looking for.

I have a good example for this, try googling how to make Linux ask for a password when using sudo.

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Post by bash-j »

theturtletalks wrote: post #21
caiocaiocaio wrote: post #14

Google any recipe, and there are at least 5 paragraphs (usually a lot more) of copy that no one will ever read, and isn't even meant for human consumption. Google "How to learn x", and you'll usually get copy written by people who know nothing about the subject, and maybe browsed Amazon for 30 minutes as research. Real, useful results that used to be the norm for Google are becoming more and more rare as time goes by…

So true. Whenever I look up something now I just add Reddit afterwards. It's been working well so far, but I guess that can be manipulated as well.

When I search for free software I usually put forum in the search terms as it helps filter out the malicious sites and the software where they clearly ripped off the free software but ask for money to unlock the pro version. Plus I get to read why people recommend the software.

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Post by newsbinator »

tlack wrote: post #346
newsbinator wrote: post #344

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The concept is interesting. The search I tried wasn't helpful: https://glorp.co/Search/vue%20vs%20svelte

Thanks for the feedback! I see a few interesting results on the page that seem relevant to the query (like the jsreport.io link). What did you hope to see that you didn't?

The first n results were not relevant, and Google's were.

Here's what a Google search returns:

* Vue and Svelte — A Lot Alike, But Some Important Differences

* Why SvelteJS may be the best framework for new web devs - Dev.to

* Svelte vs Vue.js | What are the differences? - StackShare

* Svelte.js — First impressions? (vs. React and Vue) – Milosh N. – Medium

* Top 5 Reasons You Should Use Svelte on Your Current Project Right

* Vue and Svelte · Issue #4491 · vuejs/vue · GitHub

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by SomeOldThrow »

mythrwy wrote: post #139
lostctown wrote: post #121

I append "reddit" to any query not meant for a productive task. Except now the internet is mostly reddit for me, which kinda bums me out. Especially given the new js-heavy design. In 2019, if I want reliable search about something I know nothing about I must first search on google, then try again with "reddit" appended, then change www.reddit.com to old.reddit.com, then parse through what are often questionable answe…

Am I the only one who thinks Reddit really sucks? It's a cesspool of kiddie memes, shock, ill informed opinion and political posturing. Besides, if I wanted to search Reddit I'd go to Reddit. It being front page for _everything_ I search for now is so annoying.

Most of reddit does suck. There are still really useful communities—my go-to example is /r/askhistorians, which has some of the highest quality analysis and research on the internet.

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Post by thehashrocket »

corodra wrote: post #50
caiocaiocaio wrote: post #14

Google any recipe, and there are at least 5 paragraphs (usually a lot more) of copy that no one will ever read, and isn't even meant for human consumption. Google "How to learn x", and you'll usually get copy written by people who know nothing about the subject, and maybe browsed Amazon for 30 minutes as research. Real, useful results that used to be the norm for Google are becoming more and more rare as time goes by…

Those are the absolute worst. A recipe with someone's jackass life story for 2000 words. You start to wonder if it's even a recipe at all. You have to scroll for a good minute, hoping you didn't miss the recipe. Then come the ads that reformat the size of the page. Everything jumps around and you have to rescroll again. Exactly why I stick to cookbooks in the past year or so. More and more, "fuck the internet", long…

We started using an app called Paprika that parses the page and extracts the recipe.

Although, I will admit, my youngest daughter and I get a kick out of the stories. We even try to predict which theme the writer will go with. Some are like Christmas Hallmark movies. lol.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by CondensedBrain »

pdimitar wrote: post #324
nickfromseattle wrote: post #311

This is 100% how search engine optimization works, the consultants are correct. As a marketer, when I search for marketing information on Google 70%-90% of the time all of the stuff on the 1st page generally isn't teaching me anything I didn't already know. But as someone who does this exact thing, I know how expensive good content is - hiring an author to write 3,000 words of valuable information for a reader can co…

What I don't like about your line of thinking is that creating such content should even cost money. Knowledge should be free at our point in time and supposed evolutional stage. But it's not. I'd gladly donate some local lectures on the stuff I know if I had the time. But I wouldn't charge money for it. Knowledge should be free. And internet should have become mega yellow pages on steroids like a decade ago.

>> "Knowledge should be free at our point in time and supposed evolutional stage. But it's not."

We only evolved technologically. Our economic systems are still stuck in the 19th century. The planet's cultures are still recovering from a string of empires that valued domination and assimilation over cooperation.

For now, I have to charge for my skills to live. Some day I hope to be able to have hobbies and share their output without having to monetize them to fund the efforts.

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