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Re: Give Firefox a chance

#352

Firefox needs native support for Chrome's persona/people menu. A game changer for home/business users. Also, the Firefox UI for the main window / tabs looks terrible on macOS compared to Chrome or Safari. Really non-native and ugly.

Agreed. Only reason why I’m using Chrome is the People menu.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

#353

I'm apparently one of those rare people who never switched off Firefox - it's been my default browser on Mac and Linux for years. Open source, good plugin ecosystem, and does everything I need (not a web developer, so the dev tools were never a strong selling point for me). I've used Chrome here and there through the years, but the more invasive Google became about data collection, the less inclined I've been to use…

I use all 3, but prefer firefox for most of what I do.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Firefox is fast, not noticeably faster though as Chrome seems to be a bit more aggressive with caching, and Chrome has better UI. I also prefer Chrome's autocomplete and search bar. Firefox is good, maybe even technically better these days, but Chrome is still more pleasant to use.

> Chrome has better UI if you are talking about buttons next to the address bar, like the home button, then you can customize that area and let it look nearly identical to Chrome.

With CSS you can even have tiny tabs like Chrome.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

#355

I'm apparently one of those rare people who never switched off Firefox - it's been my default browser on Mac and Linux for years. Open source, good plugin ecosystem, and does everything I need (not a web developer, so the dev tools were never a strong selling point for me). I've used Chrome here and there through the years, but the more invasive Google became about data collection, the less inclined I've been to use…

I didn't switch to Chrome at all either, and I am a web developer too.

I liked the Firebug for web development, and the built-in dev tools that came later was good for me too. Sometimes even better than Chrome's.

In a comparison today, Firefox dev tools still are better with a nice profiler, font tab, CSS layout helper, etc. The only few things I use Chrome's dev tools are for their CSS/JS code coverage tools and accessiblity tester.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Its strange, for me. I remember getting super pumped about Chromium when it went live in '09. Then, somewhere along the line, I felt like a boiled frog. Honestly, a big change for me was symbolically realized by The logo change: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#/media/File:Chro... It went from this space-age, nerdy little project to a cleaned up design that signified its shift to a position as a core Googl…

Does Chromium have the same privacy issues as Chrome does?

Some of them, see https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium for a patched version.

For me, Google's hold also manifested as complete absence of support for H.264 on Mac, because calling the Cisco's freely available openh264 is ‘too slow.’ In Linux, distro maintainers patch in the support for openh264.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

#358

I'm apparently one of those rare people who never switched off Firefox - it's been my default browser on Mac and Linux for years. Open source, good plugin ecosystem, and does everything I need (not a web developer, so the dev tools were never a strong selling point for me). I've used Chrome here and there through the years, but the more invasive Google became about data collection, the less inclined I've been to use…

I've been using Firefox as my default and only web browser on Windows and Linux since it was called Firebird and Phoenix before that (or was it the other way around?). When Chrome first came out, Google's aggressive attempts at shoving it down my throat on what seemed like every single page of every single Google service, made the contrarian in me really, really not want to try it, and I never did. Never felt like I was missing anything, either.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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The funny thing is a lot of what makes Chrome seem faster are subtle hacks. They show an empty window while it all loads so does Firefox now. Firefox used to only show the window once everything rendered. Firefox was a lot faster at rendering web pages from my experience before they changed this. I am sure theres other subtle changes out there. I remember after Quantum pages would render HTML so fast and asynchronous…

Is progressive rendering really a "hack" at this point? I mean everything you said is correct, just feels like at this point progressive rendering is the web-norm and lacking it is lacking a basic piece of functionality.

It's not entirely a hack, but it's a perception trick that makes Chrome seem faster despite it not rendering as quickly as FF.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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My big Firefox problem is the lack of media key support. I like to hit play or pause on my keyboard and have my streaming music start or top. It's probably the one big thing that makes me run Chrome all the time.

This sounds like a pretty easy feature to implement and send upstream, you should give it a shot. In my everyone has their niche "one big thing", and it's different for every user and impossible for upstream to accommodate for. But scratching your own itches always works!

It's blocked by this issue:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1411795

You used to be able to work around the problem with an extension (MediaKeys) but that stopped working with Quantum.

That's basically when I went back to Chrome. I keep checking on Firefox to see how they are doing though.

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