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The Huawei Disaster Reveals Google’s Iron Grip on Android

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Re: The Huawei Disaster Reveals Google’s Iron Grip on Android

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I fully agree. Google had to comply, but it is not in its advantage because it shows that Google is too much powerful and that is problematic.

No, it shows that the US is too powerful. All the craziness about preventing American internet companies from dominating the Domestic Chinese market makes total sense now, doesn't it? If the Chinese economy had been built around Facebook, Google etc. the US would have a lot of leverage, since they're all US-based companies and _must_ comply with whatever US Government asks them to do.

The Chinese government has prevented plenty of US companies from doing business in China including Google, but more importantly is the rejection of patents and intellectual property and espionage conducted by Chinese government, which has cost US companies billions and the US government hundreds of lives.

Re: The Huawei Disaster Reveals Google’s Iron Grip on Android

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post #231

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No, it shows that the US is too powerful. All the craziness about preventing American internet companies from dominating the Domestic Chinese market makes total sense now, doesn't it? If the Chinese economy had been built around Facebook, Google etc. the US would have a lot of leverage, since they're all US-based companies and _must_ comply with whatever US Government asks them to do.

The Chinese government has prevented plenty of US companies from doing business in China including Google, but more importantly is the rejection of patents and intellectual property and espionage conducted by Chinese government, which has cost US companies billions and the US government hundreds of lives.

> which has cost US companies billions and the US government hundreds of lives.

Can you tell me with a straight face that the CIA, NSA etc. do _not_ have active espionage activities in China? Do you think valuable intellectual property and state secrets exist only in the US? That as a result of these activities, the Chinese Government has not also lost lives?

Do not buy so easily into propaganda. Nations will promote themselves as the only "Good" nation to their own people throughout the world. Because the US is a democracy, the US Government has to be very careful and frame the narrative in a way that's not an outright power grab.

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The article speculates legal judgements & fines for violations. So, lots.

How can the US fine Huawei if Huawei is not allowed to operate (and thus doesn't operate) in the US?

Other, friendly jurisdictions, e.g. UK

Re: The Huawei Disaster Reveals Google’s Iron Grip on Android

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How can the US fine Huawei if Huawei is not allowed to operate (and thus doesn't operate) in the US?

Other, friendly jurisdictions, e.g. UK

We had this piece of news the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19979626

ARM, a UK company stops doing business with Huawei because of US pressure.

Re: The Huawei Disaster Reveals Google’s Iron Grip on Android

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I did not root my phone yet, and I install apps with f-droid just fine. The only thing I had to do, if I recall correctly, was enabling third party apps instalation

Try it again and watch the process closely. You'll get an additional prompt when you use F-Droid that doesn't appear with the Play store.

Indeed there is an extra confirmation step, and it freezes some processes (specifically, those that alter the screen, like red shifters)
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