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Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by jarjar12 »

codeulike wrote: post #128

Its getting weird when you have to fill that box in with pen and paper Marci Robin was buying a Fiat 500X from a West Palm Beach, Florida dealership, and was in the final stages of signing all the paperwork, when she was presented with a strange but simple question: was she a robot? This wasn’t online or anything, she was right there, in person, in front of the sales person, who wanted her to check a box, with a pen,…

May be They are preparing for the future.

We should start protesting to make sure robots can buy cars.

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Post by johannes1234321 »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #315
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Helping scan all the world's books as part of a plan to make them freely available to all is much easier to get behind than tuning map objects for their self driving cars. Particularly when most books that were scanned never, ever showed up on Google books.

OTOH, succeeding at self-driving cars has the potential to save lives by the thousands.

And if they succeed to much they can monopolize transportation and thus mobility. Not a power I want to have in a private company. Especially not in a company from outside my country's jurisdiction. Where I can't have an impact via democratic law making process.

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Post by steelframe »

Old_Thrashbarg wrote: post #267
miguelmota wrote: post #156

As a user who's constantly clicking on the crosswalk or storefront images you can't help but to think that you're essentially working for free training Google's machine learning models by providing them with supervised data points.

Yes, especially when they show you about 15 sets of images in a row taking 2 minutes to complete, clearly going beyond demonstrating you're human.

The Cascade Bicycle Club in the Pacific Northwest threw me into one of these multi-minute Captchell vortexes when I tried to log in to my years-old account to renew my membership and register for one of their organized rides. I was already on the fence as to whether it would be worth paying to do these rides that I have already done several times over the years. That (ironically) dehumanizing experience pushed me over the edge. I didn't complete the Captchas, didn't log in, didn't renew my membership, and didn't register for anything this year.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by raws »

nine_k wrote: post #279
gcb0 wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

for google, you are the enemy. not even bots. captcha is google master blow against ad blockers. a regular user, who they have all the info, give them dollars per ad impression. You, with your doNotTrack (ha! that was a joke) and privacy addons makes them only cents per ad impressions. you are google's enemy. remember this when you get stuck in captcha hell (and consequently censored from most sites until changing de…

IDK. I run Firefox on many OSes, everywhere with uMatrix that blocks known trackers, ad networks and such. I don't see most ads (if any). I rarely see the "I am not a robot" box, and hasn't seen image recognition tasks for a long-long time.

That also heavily depends on what kind of/which sites you visit.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

cortesoft wrote: post #244
imtringued wrote: post #143

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>This might surprise you, but it actually has to do with what traffic coming out of TOR looks like. That's a massive load of bullshit. Google has a captcha challenge that only humans can solve. That alone is already sufficient to prevent unwanted traffic. That is how every captcha system works. However google is an exception. If you're logged in to a google account or are using chrome then google can use that informa…

If you are using TOR, and not accepting cookies, they are going to have no way of knowing that you are the same user who just solved the CAPTCHA. Every request is going to appear to be from a new user. If you do everything you can to prevent google from knowing who you are, don't be surprised when they behave like they don't know who you are.

Tor Browser accepts session cookies. It won't have an established google identity, but it fully supports a temporary "solved the captcha" identity.

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Post by HenryBemis »

shawnz wrote: post #252
askvictor wrote: post #249

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Why would they bother checking the user agent when it's the easiest thing to spoof (really, you probably can't even call it spoofing)

I'd bet that the vast majority of botters/phishers which Facebook deals with are amateurs. That said, I meant using unusual user agent software, not really just having an unusual user agent string.

No need for software, one can easy change it on the about:config of Firefox and/or there are some cool add-ons that can rotate/change the user agent of a Firefox on the "desired frequency"

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Post by sjwright »

djflutt3rshy wrote: post #2

The box has made browsing using TOR insufferable! It fusses and makes me click storefronts and traffic lights until I run out of patience and close out of whatever webpage I was trying to visit. I assume it has to do with a lack of Google cookies on the browser, essentially punishing me for trying to protect my privacy.

> punishing me for trying to protect my privacy.

TOR doesn't protect your privacy, it just lumps you in with—and makes you indistinguishable from—the worst crap on the internet. If you don't want to be treated like crap, don't try to blend in with the crap.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by johannes1234321 »

jopsen wrote: post #263
JohnFen wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it almost certainly wouldn't be affordable for low-traffic blogs and the like Very few low-traffic blogs that I see use (or need) CAPTCHAs. I know that the ones I run don't. > I don't love the compromise of paying for things with my data or by training Google's AI, but it's hard to say users aren't getting anything out of it. I don't think they are getting much, if anything out of it -- aside from being increasingl…

My personal blog has a spam filter for comments.. it's either that or captcha.. or sign in with Google/Facebook.

Often a trivial non-standard thing like "what's the name of the author" works well enough. Especially outside the English language. Spammers won't spend the time to bother adopting their scripts for that.

If this somple thing comes from a popular WordPress plugin the equation for the spammer changes, of course.

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