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Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit

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Re: Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit

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"They are still predicted to report the second highest revenues this quarter of any company in history - only surpassed by their previous record." Profits, perhaps, but not revenues.

Yes because we all know that revenue is more important than profit .....

I didn't say that it was.

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Wow! You really believe that a crumb can break a MBP keyboard? God have mercy on your soul. Really, is that the best that Apple competitors can do!? You are all ridiculous, there are MILLIONS of MBPs out there, must all those millions live in a enclosed dome where no dust can get in. Seriously, nobody has time for your anti-Apple nonsense, I don't know why I even replied.

I believe it because Apple admitted it was true: https://theoutline.com/post/5052/apple-admits-its-computers-...

No, they didn't.

Nowhere in that POS "article" the author justifies the title.

Re: Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit

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Maybe Apple doesn't want to pursue a dream which, as far as we know, can only have a limited outcome? They don't really like such compromises in products. Check this: https://medium.com/s/story/self-driving-cars-will-always-be-... > Waymo’s CEO, John Krafcik, has admitted that a self-driving car that can drive in any condition, on any road, without ever needing a human to take control—usually called a “level five” au…

When Apple lays off, it's because their perfectionist culture doesn't tolerate compromises (as if their existing products are a beacon of idealism).

They knew EXACTLY what compromises needed to be made regarding self-driving cars all along. Any real product roll-out needs compromises, and this seemingly moralistic apology for layoffs doesn't cut it. They laid off because they wanted to, because their corporate aims didn't align, and that's that.

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Aren't they running trials now

Waymo have been operating on public roads since 2017. https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/7/16615290/waymo-self-drivi...

That's just bull, it's on Arizona, on a closed circuit test track.

> And starting very soon, the company plans to invite regular people for rides in these fully self-driving vehicles.

What happened since 2017?

Re: Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit

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What precipice does Apple need to be walked back from? Certainly not the current one, where they rake in an amount of money roughly equal to the GDP of Luxembourg in a single quarter.

Financial performance during the biggest market bull run in history (which lasted almost 10 years) isn't that indicative of the future of company. On the other hand, the declining quality, sloppier design, increased prices on already highly priced products, multiple conflicting product lines - all of those decisions will eventually have consequences. Apple used to be about doing a handful of things really well and ha…

> the declining quality, sloppier design, increased prices on already highly priced products, multiple conflicting product lines

None of which are Apple's problems.

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Sales levelling off != drying up. Apple has always had problems with their online services, but iOS security is a problem? Compared to what, the dumpster fire over in Android?

Phones are moving towards commodities even apple found this when the X got push back at $1000 per unit.

They can still charge a premium over any other phone manufacturer, and they sell at the about the same volume. They have a lock in that seems likely to protect that premium for the foreseeable future. As long as they can charge a premium they get a nice profit margin.

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Apple is far behind its competitors in pretty much every area except hardware. They are still terrible at running stable web services. There is a new critical bug or security hole in their OS every month. And all of their non-hardware offerings - Apple Maps, Apple Music, iCloud, iTunes, Siri etc. - range from very bad to average. IMO they need to be investing a LOT more on the software side of things if they intend t…

Sales levelling off != drying up. Apple has always had problems with their online services, but iOS security is a problem? Compared to what, the dumpster fire over in Android?

iOS is arguably the most secure operating system in widespread use. Not sure why the OP thinks otherwise. macOS while not as secure is still in pretty good shape. But largely irrelevant to Apple's financial future.

Re: Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit

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Apple accused a Project Titan ex-employee of trade secrets theft, and it was disclosed that there 5,000 employees "Disclosed" on Project Titan. https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-self-driving-car-proje...

Of course the most important comment is towards the bottom. If they laid off 200 out of 5000, then it really means nothing

And they haven't laid off all 200; many will be moved to different assignments at Apple.

Re: Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit

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Right now roads are designed for "human sensors." At some point we'll need to redesign the roads for new kinds of sensors. I have no idea what this will look like, maybe all the roads will have RFID in them or some other tech. I think that's the hurdle we haven't gotten past yet, recognizing we need new roads.

Considering we can't seem to pay for our existing road infrastructure, I don't think this will happen in the next 20 years.
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