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The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by Findeton »

cageface wrote: post #133
lettergram wrote: post #40

My wife and I bought an XS (for her) and XR (for me). We both had Nexus 6p and they were at end of life and wanted to get her a nicer phone for Christmas. Well, after playing with both the XR takes better photos, generally. In addition, the XR gets probably 30% more life on a single charge. Nothing else on the XS is really much better (outside of a couple nice to haves). So now she has the XR and I have the XS. ID re…

I'm kind of sorry to see the XR doing so poorly myself because I think it's a great phone and I've been saying for years that Apple needs to get its devices into more hands to expand the market for its services. I don't know what it is exactly about the XR that turns people off but I can afford an XS Max but opted instead for the XR and I don't regret it. Since the 5C was also a disappointment maybe it's just that pe…

Not many people want to pay premium price for a SECOND-best quality. XR is way more expensive than comparable Android devices, and still is not the top device (XS: two rear cameras, oled screen). And at the same time, XS is just too expensive.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by skookumchuck »

saagarjha wrote: post #259
skookumchuck wrote: post #103

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Worse, my iphone says it is an MG5W2LL/A whatever the hell that is.

It’s an iPhone 6. You’ll notice that Apple will market it that way, instead of by its model number.

Thanks! I find it peculiar that one has to go to the internet to translate the self-identification of the phone to what model Apple says it is.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by zapzupnz »

donarb wrote: post #69
king_magic wrote: post #46

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I love my XR. The battery life is absolutely spectacular. It’s no iPhone 7 repeat by any stretch of the imagination.

I upgraded to the Xr from the 7 as well, I skipped the initial release of the X last year. I was happy to pay a bit more to get a better camera and the FaceID is 100 times better and faster than TouchID.

I've seen people decry Face ID as a toy in this post. The people who think Face ID is a toy are people who haven't used Face ID. Yes, it has its problems, but it's no toy.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by thekyle »

zepto wrote: post #299
tabs_masterrace wrote: post #223

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How about some more sensors. No phone can tell me the temperature, without checking weather online. What if I want to know the room temperature. Could put humidity, atmospheric pressure sensors in there too, IR cameras, all kinds of cool stuff. Think of the software applications, right know my "smart" phone has no way of knowing if I'm outside or inside. Then, voice mail. Why doesn't this still not work locally? Ther…

What’s the benefit of local voicemail?

Well the obvious benefit is that you could access your voicemail recordings offline. Also for Android devices there would presumably be some way to access the raw audio files and transfer them to another computer for long-term storage.

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Post by thekyle »

criddell wrote: post #264
interlocutor wrote: post #173

Apple's problem is that their rate of innovation has slowed down. iPhone generates over a 100 Billion dollars in revenue. Per year. If any company has the resources to innovate it is Apple. Apple, here are some free ideas. Some of these ideas go beyond the phone and into cell networks. If Google can do that ( https://fi.google.com ) why can't Apple? - Improve cellular reception. We are now heavily reliant on our cell…

> Voice and text should go over data That's what Facetime and Messages are, no? If you need to call non-Apple users, then Skype should work.

I figured he was suggesting a voice over IP solution more like Google Voice that can still communicate with the regular cell networks.

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Post by epanchin »

snarf21 wrote: post #301
m23khan wrote: post #294

Consumers should demand cheaper smartphones with adequate performance -- just like cars, you have toyota corollas and honda civics for the average joe and then you have lexus and cadillacs. Similarly, a cheap, reliable phone for masses and the rich folks can go for their iPhones and Samsung Galaxies. It seems when it comes to smartphones, consumers are also to blame for unnecessarily spending more then their actual a…

I would partially agree with you except they made the SE and people didn't vote with their dollars. It was only 10% of iPhone sales. I agree that it would be nice to have more lower and mid range options but most people seem to want the new shiny.

Where did you get 10% from?

According to TechCrunch... In the UK it was 10% of total smartphone sales, 25% of Apple’s. In the USA it was 5% of total smartphone sales and 16% of Apple’s.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/10/the-iphone-se-is-selling-j...

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by zepto »

thekyle wrote: post #355
zepto wrote: post #299

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What’s the benefit of local voicemail?

Well the obvious benefit is that you could access your voicemail recordings offline. Also for Android devices there would presumably be some way to access the raw audio files and transfer them to another computer for long-term storage.

Sure, but aren’t those extremely niche use cases? How is that innovation?

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Post by fjp »

m0zg wrote: post #144
darkstar_16 wrote: post #139

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This! I've been an iPhone user since the first version too and am contemplating a switch simply because the price to be in the ecosystem is more than I'm willing to pay. I'm on an iPhone 7 still and when this gives up, I'm going to jump ship

Price _per se_ would not be a concern if competition wasn't there. I just bought an iPad Pro this year. Nothing Android based even comes close. But unfortunately for Apple (and fortunately for us) there is stiff competition in the smartphone space. And Apple will either have to innovate and/or cut prices. Incremental upgrades at triple digit prices aren't going to work.

As a recent XS buyer (upgrade from iPhone 7) my strategy is just going to be waiting 2 or more upgrade cycles before buying again. I still value the ecosystem and trust Apple with my data more than anyone else, especially in the case of iMessage.

I don't think I'll miss anything serious from skipping upgrade cycles. I'm not much of a camera user and Face ID is meh to me so From iPhone 6 to XS I've barely seen any improvements I care about other than water resistance which was a 6 -> 7 upgrade.

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Post by samatman »

jakobegger wrote: post #153
samatman wrote: post #136

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Neat, would you mind sharing the model name? I lack the patience (and at the moment, bandwidth) for most video.

Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 It has a slide-out front camera. So when you are not using the selfie camera, there is no notch and no large bezel. (It does look like the bottom bezel is a bit larger than the top and side bezels, though)

Thanks!

The screen looks gorgeous, I personally will never again own a phone with moving parts of any sort so that's a deal-breaker for me. I'm glad there's still experimentation happening in the space, too many Androids just jump off the same bridge as Apple.

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